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    Any news from this new club start up. Are they doing any tournaments such as the Clash of the Boarder ? How many teams did they form ?

    #2
    Here fishy fishy

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      #3
      Heard OYSA is letting them and Bridges in. No chance in hell for SCA/IFC/tuff streets whatever they are called.


      Anyone in the know?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Heard OYSA is letting them and Bridges in. No chance in hell for SCA/IFC/tuff streets whatever they are called.


        Anyone in the know?
        The only way they get in is if OYSA does not follow their policy.

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          #5
          Agreed

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The only way they get in is if OYSA does not follow their policy.
          Agreed, we will see if OYSA has a backbone. OYSA needs to do what is best from the kids and not what is best self proclaimed DOC's and mock boards. There are many standards that need to met, not just registering with the state as a non profit.

          Kids are number one priority.

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            #6
            Can you explain how new clubs who start up, like the example provided, don't meet OYSA standards? Furthermore, if you're apart of OYSA wouldn't that make you reconsider if they don't follow their own policy. Outside of that how are these new clubs not focused on the kids...that's more an opinion than anything else unless your employed by one of these clubs. Lots and lots of opinions on here repped as "fact."

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Can you explain how new clubs who start up, like the example provided, don't meet OYSA standards? Furthermore, if you're apart of OYSA wouldn't that make you reconsider if they don't follow their own policy. Outside of that how are these new clubs not focused on the kids...that's more an opinion than anything else unless your employed by one of these clubs. Lots and lots of opinions on here repped as "fact."
              The most relevant policy is that new clubs need to service a new demographic or geographic area. Starting a new club because a DOC doesn’t want to be accountable to a board or wants to make more money is not a valid reason regardless of how they spin it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The most relevant policy is that new clubs need to service a new demographic or geographic area. Starting a new club because a DOC doesn’t want to be accountable to a board or wants to make more money is not a valid reason regardless of how they spin it.
                Well there is that.

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                  #9
                  Is that stated in their policy?
                  Then why have so many clubs that have join in recent years literally cover the same area? Furthermore, that creates the opposite of what you'd want...a free market. Let the players, parents, and coaches become educated and make their own choice. Thay policy literally spells out you can only play with us if you pay our friends...great policy!!! For the chosen few. Keep in mind OYSA isn't ran by intellectuals who actually research data...such as population density. So the entire outline you suggest...is currently flawed for specific individuals-alliances gain. But...yes lets ignore that.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The most relevant policy is that new clubs need to service a new demographic or geographic area. Starting a new club because a DOC doesn’t want to be accountable to a board or wants to make more money is not a valid reason regardless of how they spin it.
                    That seems difficult to verify. What if the existing club in an area or demographic is poorly run, has bad coach's, or not enough coaches to actually properly address the demands of that demographic or geographic area? Are young players and their families then forced to play for a club that can't actually help them as players?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Agreed, we will see if OYSA has a backbone. OYSA needs to do what is best from the kids and not what is best self proclaimed DOC's and mock boards. There are many standards that need to met, not just registering with the state as a non profit.

                      Kids are number one priority.
                      OYSA has a big job. They don’t have time to manage idiots that don’t know how to start a club. OYSA sets standards to play in their leagues. If the club does not meet the standards then the club needs to go back to the drawing board and fix it. SCA and Bridges have had plenty of time to adjust to the standards.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        That seems difficult to verify. What if the existing club in an area or demographic is poorly run, has bad coach's, or not enough coaches to actually properly address the demands of that demographic or geographic area? Are young players and their families then forced to play for a club that can't actually help them as players?
                        Yes. Those players will have to drive 15 extra minutes to 2-3 other clubs that are available.

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                          #13
                          The people spoke

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Is that stated in their policy?
                          Then why have so many clubs that have join in recent years literally cover the same area? Furthermore, that creates the opposite of what you'd want...a free market. Let the players, parents, and coaches become educated and make their own choice. Thay policy literally spells out you can only play with us if you pay our friends...great policy!!! For the chosen few. Keep in mind OYSA isn't ran by intellectuals who actually research data...such as population density. So the entire outline you suggest...is currently flawed for specific individuals-alliances gain. But...yes lets ignore that.
                          The parents and players did make choice a few years back. They all left OYSA for the OPL. The OPL was run by the clubs, no one liked and every club is back in OYSA. Why? OYSA has standards, clubs have to meet or exceed the bylaws set forth by USYS and OYSA. There is oversight at each level. If you look at the start up clubs there is a reason they are start ups ie the relationship with their previous club was terminated by one party or the other.

                          OYSA's job isn't to run leagues, it sanctions clubs and league and enforces a quality standard that protects the youth being served.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            The parents and players did make choice a few years back. They all left OYSA for the OPL. The OPL was run by the clubs, no one liked and every club is back in OYSA. Why? OYSA has standards, clubs have to meet or exceed the bylaws set forth by USYS and OYSA. There is oversight at each level. If you look at the start up clubs there is a reason they are start ups ie the relationship with their previous club was terminated by one party or the other.

                            OYSA's job isn't to run leagues, it sanctions clubs and league and enforces a quality standard that protects the youth being served.
                            Corrupt

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                              #15
                              Not Corrupt

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Corrupt
                              Almost every industry that deals with kids, money etc has a regulatory body. This again is to protect the kids.

                              I want to establish a club why?

                              I can do it better? There are plenty of opportunities to coach
                              I wan't to make more money, is being a youth soccer coach supposed to be a six figure income?
                              I don't want to be accountable to an actual board? This should be a red flag. A board isn't your former team manager from the club you just left.

                              You have to look at the motivation

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