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Unregistered 04-30-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 968131)
Your comment makes no sense... Did you actually read the post or just start typing?

just start typing really we are busy winninng state cups rec tourney.

kyl33 06-04-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 939942)
I am posting this separate from the ECNL thread but some of what is in that thread, pertains here. Some within that thread have said that HS soccer will not be permitted by the ecnl. From everything that I have heard "officially", this is not accurate. Some clubs may not permit HS soccer but that is a club decision and not an ecnl decision.

Anyway, in various experiences, what is the experience of most of your daughters in terms of how much their high school teams train? I've heard a big range. Some train every day if there isn't a game. Some train 4 days per week and perhaps play 2 games per week. In short, most of what I've heard is that there is very little time off. My kid will not be in high school for 2 more years. I know that she will probably want to play on the high school team for the reasons that most kids do - friends, school spirit, etc. Some clubs have programs during the high school season and the kids seem to train less days. I am thinking that from a development standpoint that it is better to train 2 to 3 days per week with a club trainer and then maybe 1 or 2 days per week with an outside trainer that currently works with my daughter. Also, the clubs I am thinking of only have perhaps 8 to 10 games throughout the season. To me it just seems that HS soccer runs the players ragged while the training is questionable. Does anybody else have thoughts on this?

I will try to answer this as best as I can. Here is some background on me; I have played school soccer for 3 years and club for around 7 years.

I feel with school soccer, you get worked a bit too hard; you're constantly practicing and playing games. You also are more of a chess piece because school teams are for winning, and you are also extremely replaceable. In club, I feel like you are closer to your coaches/players, and you're treated more as a person that wants to improve.
I do think constant practices are great because the more you practice the better you get. Although school trainers are not the best, any training you put effort into is good training.

Unregistered 06-13-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 966889)
Sorry but this post is ignorant to HS soccer. Poster has never been through a state champ caliber team obviously a rec poster.

Oviedo girls won last year and were a complete joke. It was terrible soccer and the problem with high school soccer is you have rec players sprinkled in with the elite players. It is kick ball and practices are a social gathering.

If your kid was on purple it wasn't due to the high school issue. It may have been part of it coupled with minimal ECNL playing time, or financial perhaps. Just leave the we didn't play because...it really makes it seem like your kid was better and those who played would take exception. Or, give us a last name and age so we can see if you are a credible poster

Unregistered 06-15-2013 04:28 PM

Hs Soccer
 
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Originally Posted by kyl33 (Post 1015447)
I will try to answer this as best as I can. Here is some background on me; I have played school soccer for 3 years and club for around 7 years.

I feel with school soccer, you get worked a bit too hard; you're constantly practicing and playing games. You also are more of a chess piece because school teams are for winning, and you are also extremely replaceable. In club, I feel like you are closer to your coaches/players, and you're treated more as a person that wants to improve.
I do think constant practices are great because the more you practice the better you get. Although school trainers are not the best, any training you put effort into is good training.

Obviously alot has changed in the 20 plus years since I played HS soccer. I was lucky enough to play with a couple all americans, players who ended up play at the pro level and some who played for the US national team. Obviously these guys were all the product of club soccer, but the one thing we all had in common is we played when ever and where ever we could. HS did provide alot of exposure and recognition. I think that by taking HS soccer away from our kids they are trully missing out not so much at the soccer level but on a much more personal level. What kid doesnt want to be a high school star athlete and regardless of what some may think players who play at thier HS do get exposure that will help them get to the college level. I think thats what most parents want here in the US.

Unregistered 06-19-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 939984)
My daughter turned down ECNL because of the (at the moment) ban on HS soccer. She enjoys HS very much and didn't think it was necessary to give it up. She plays on a Purple team at OCYS. The HS trains 4-5 days/week and club was training 2 days/week during the time.

Our thinking is this: club soccer is for training and development. HS soccer is for fun and camraderie. HS tends to overtrain and overschedule games. We let her train 4x week if she has 2 games. If there's a conflict between club and HS, club prevails for the better quality training and competition. Never had much pushback from the HS coach because of this. She usually attends all HS practices even if not actively training.

What high school does she play for? Is she a junior or senior? Just curious as we know most of the girls in the area and are curious.

Unregistered 07-18-2013 06:43 AM

We play both . The folks doing academy are not doing their child a favor in our area as the academy program is not good and the drive is horrendous. We have a new hs coach who is fired up. Holding training sessions all summer. Will be interesting to watch the program next season. Hs has so many advantages over club. The facilities are crazy good thanks to football. The stadium is like a college. The cost is next to nothing. The kids train after school at the school. It's a shame that soccer doesn't follow the FB model. Life would be easy.

Unregistered 08-05-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 1049016)
We play both . The folks doing academy are not doing their child a favor in our area as the academy program is not good and the drive is horrendous. We have a new hs coach who is fired up. Holding training sessions all summer. Will be interesting to watch the program next season. Hs has so many advantages over club. The facilities are crazy good thanks to football. The stadium is like a college. The cost is next to nothing. The kids train after school at the school. It's a shame that soccer doesn't follow the FB model. Life would be easy.

Best Girls HS Team this Season was Amer. Herit.
Post Season score 38 - 0

Spud 08-12-2013 02:12 PM

Frank Rijkaard is joining Montverde Academy as an advisor
 
From TopDrawerSoccer.com:

"In June, Frank Rijkaard made international waves when he turned down the lucrative, high-profile job as Paris Saint Germain boss. Turns out he had a distinctly more American project in mind.

Orlando-area boys' soccer power Montverde Academy announced late last week that Rijkaard will take up a prominent position at The Soccer Institute at Montverde Academy, a new cyclical developmental project opening later this month. The former Barcelona head man will be the fledgling academy's official ambassador and advisor for player development for a program that will run parallel to the school's already established high school program."

Unregistered 08-12-2013 02:19 PM

Yawn,,,,,,,,,,,,

Unregistered 08-12-2013 03:19 PM

WOW! Major news.


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