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    Timbers announce departure of youth technical director Larry Sunderland

    Supposedly this means more emphasis on the academy producing talent that can contribute at the T2 / Timbers level. Sure.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Supposedly this means more emphasis on the academy producing talent that can contribute at the T2 / Timbers level. Sure.
    Good riddance.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Supposedly this means more emphasis on the academy producing talent that can contribute at the T2 / Timbers level. Sure.
      Going to FC Cincinnati. https://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/2...underland.html

      What about his kid? Since he's an 03 (and thus a minor), I'm assuming he'll move to Ohio with his dad. I hear he knows someone in the FC Cincinnati organization who might be able to get him a spot...

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Supposedly this means more emphasis on the academy producing talent that can contribute at the T2 / Timbers level. Sure.
        What this means is the MLS as a whole is restructuring their DA platform. Moving to an open market for player acquisition, no more territorial boundaries and for Portland no more tiny tot local TA Teams, just 2 or 3 older ages.u15/17 & 19

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          #5
          Current record

          18/19's 6-13-2
          16/17's 8-11-3
          15's 3-13-2

          Last year they did much better

          18/19's 19-9-4
          16/17's 14-20-2
          15's 14-15-6

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            18/19's 6-13-2
            16/17's 8-11-3
            15's 3-13-2

            Last year they did much better

            18/19's 19-9-4
            16/17's 14-20-2
            15's 14-15-6
            OTOH, T2 is doing well. Important? Probably not.

            If an academy is focusing on wins and losses, it's focusing on the wrong thing; it should be focused on developing players. Record shouldn't be ignored--you want to see improvement--but a DA league trophy means very little in the long run; more important are players that get to T2 or even the first team.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              OTOH, T2 is doing well. Important? Probably not.

              If an academy is focusing on wins and losses, it's focusing on the wrong thing; it should be focused on developing players. Record shouldn't be ignored--you want to see improvement--but a DA league trophy means very little in the long run; more important are players that get to T2 or even the first team.
              Which feeds the DA re structuring taking place, no local tiny tot teams and just older teams that can get players from anyplace on the globe, just like the first team. Bout, time.

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                #8
                The academy is in total disrepair. Absolute wankers working in it.

                I really hope they bring someone in with an actual clue of how top-level development should work. It doesn't need tinkering on the margins, it needs a full fledged restructuring. I doubt the front office has the interest and resources to pull that off, but I'm open to being proven wrong.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Which feeds the DA re structuring taking place, no local tiny tot teams and just older teams that can get players from anyplace on the globe, just like the first team. Bout, time.
                  Local tiny tot DA ran for a total of 3 years. I’m sure long enough for your son to be “overlooked” 3 different times.

                  So much negativity around a program that was aimed at youth development, weird. Amazing how many back seat coaches and what not are here on TS. I’m sure you would have done it much much better and of course your son would have been a star.

                  We keep repeating over and over again the same negativity about the same mistakes. Change won’t just happen, it will come through people actually doing something to make soccer better.

                  You’ve done what exactly?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The academy is in total disrepair. Absolute wankers working in it.

                    I really hope they bring someone in with an actual clue of how top-level development should work. It doesn't need tinkering on the margins, it needs a full fledged restructuring. I doubt the front office has the interest and resources to pull that off, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
                    How could the program be better specifically?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      OTOH, T2 is doing well. Important? Probably not.

                      If an academy is focusing on wins and losses, it's focusing on the wrong thing; it should be focused on developing players. Record shouldn't be ignored--you want to see improvement--but a DA league trophy means very little in the long run; more important are players that get to T2 or even the first team.
                      Winning isn't important says the loser. If you are developing players you will win and those players will be winners and will advance to the first team because they are good.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Winning isn't important says the loser. If you are developing players you will win and those players will be winners and will advance to the first team because they are good.
                        It depends how you win. If you win by playing crap then you're going to produce crap.

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                          #13
                          Ha ha ha ha

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          It depends how you win. If you win by playing crap then you're going to produce crap.
                          Who determines if it is crap. The one holding the trophy says we beat that team because they where crap. The one that is crap says, yeah but we out played them everywhere but the score board.

                          Of course you realize the score board determines winners and losers.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            How could the program be better specifically?
                            If it attracted players that would some day be pros. Until then.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              If it attracted players that would some day be pros. Until then.
                              They've been blaming the players for years all while not making them, or the environment they come from, any better.

                              The funniest thing is that when they remove the homegrown territories, no top players are going to come to TA anyway because it's a decade behind. And the very small handful of local players with pro potential are going to take advantage of the rule to leave.

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