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    Changing teams during recruitment years

    If cuts affect a kid during recruitment years how much should the kid tell coaches? Not an issue currently but the information might matter eventually. Does it look terrible to send a schedule out next year from a different team or is this somewhat common? This time of year takes on added pressure when college contact is in the mix.

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    If cuts affect a kid during recruitment years how much should the kid tell coaches? Not an issue currently but the information might matter eventually. Does it look terrible to send a schedule out next year from a different team or is this somewhat common? This time of year takes on added pressure when college contact is in the mix.
    It does matter if the college runs a competitive program. If a player is cut from the top team and dropped down then there is a reason why. The player is expected to continue to develop and not drop back. I would have your player discuss this with the college coach.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It does matter if the college runs a competitive program. If a player is cut from the top team and dropped down then there is a reason why. The player is expected to continue to develop and not drop back. I would have your player discuss this with the college coach.
      I agree it might matter with some, maybe not with others - if they even notice. Most coaches will be tracking dozens of players and it might not even be on their radar. Also depends on how bad the drop was. Not that I would encourage lying about it, but coaches certainly know that there's some bad clubs in good leagues and good clubs in bad leagues so it shouldn't be hard to explain your way out of it. Just reassure them the place you're at now is a great fit for you, you're starting every game, playing up an age group whatever.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I agree it might matter with some, maybe not with others - if they even notice. Most coaches will be tracking dozens of players and it might not even be on their radar. Also depends on how bad the drop was. Not that I would encourage lying about it, but coaches certainly know that there's some bad clubs in good leagues and good clubs in bad leagues so it shouldn't be hard to explain your way out of it. Just reassure them the place you're at now is a great fit for you, you're starting every game, playing up an age group whatever.
        My advice to anyone is to not rely on your club/club coach when dealing with college coaches. You need to be control of your own story. I agree the college coach would not notice a change in clubs or team unless there is a club coach involved who is looking out more for the club’s interests than your kid’s. Your initial contact might involve a club/club coach, but from there you are going to the college coach’s ID camps and regular contact should be direct (the “new” rules prevent recruitment, not general expression of interest). We dropped club entirely after sophomore year of HS to concentrate on varsity HS soccer and school. We already were in direct contact with college coaches six months prior to that and I’m glad we handled it that way. We told the college coaches why from our perspective and it really didn’t seem to faze their interest. My impression is at that point as rising juniors they’ve seen enough and can follow HS varsity news to satisfy themselves as they fill out their roster.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My advice to anyone is to not rely on your club/club coach when dealing with college coaches. You need to be control of your own story. I agree the college coach would not notice a change in clubs or team unless there is a club coach involved who is looking out more for the club’s interests than your kid’s. Your initial contact might involve a club/club coach, but from there you are going to the college coach’s ID camps and regular contact should be direct (the “new” rules prevent recruitment, not general expression of interest). We dropped club entirely after sophomore year of HS to concentrate on varsity HS soccer and school. We already were in direct contact with college coaches six months prior to that and I’m glad we handled it that way. We told the college coaches why from our perspective and it really didn’t seem to faze their interest. My impression is at that point as rising juniors they’ve seen enough and can follow HS varsity news to satisfy themselves as they fill out their roster.
          That must be one powerhouse program your kid is going to go to.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            That must be one powerhouse program your kid is going to go to.
            She’s a rising senior in a D1 college. Not a “powerhouse” program but easily a top 25 school in her major and she already has a $70k starting salary job offer upon graduation. That’s worth more than any bragging about soccer from a kid with an “ology” major from a powerhouse soccer program. End of the line.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              She’s a rising senior in a D1 college. Not a “powerhouse” program but easily a top 25 school in her major and she already has a $70k starting salary job offer upon graduation. That’s worth more than any bragging about soccer from a kid with an “ology” major from a powerhouse soccer program. End of the line.
              so why does you "advice" on soccer matter? Sounds like you have a fine student. Congrats.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                That must be one powerhouse program your kid is going to go to.
                Most programs wouldn't be too happy dropping club altogether, but they may barely blink at dropping down a level. Tell them what happened, why and what you're doing to prepare for college soccer. It really is up to the player to sell themselves both in conversations and on the field

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  so why does you "advice" on soccer matter? Sounds like you have a fine student. Congrats.
                  Because unlike some of the posters on here my oldest isn’t 12 or 13. I suspect some parents actually look for advice on TS rather than the club sales pitch or 70 year old troll who has nothing to say. Why do you care? Is your assumption that all parents care about is soccer and their kids are all dumb as bricks jocks?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Most programs wouldn't be too happy dropping club altogether, but they may barely blink at dropping down a level. Tell them what happened, why and what you're doing to prepare for college soccer. It really is up to the player to sell themselves both in conversations and on the field
                    Any why would college coaches care if you drop club once you are already well along in the recruitment process in the middle of high school?

                    Also someone else mentioned powerhouse schools. Below is the recent NCAA ranking of women’s soccer college programs. For arguments sake, let’s say the top 20 are powerhouses. There are literally hundreds of girls on “elite” soccer teams in DA, ECNL, NPL, etc. here in New England. Can someone tell me how many of these girls are on these top 20 soccer teams?

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                      #11
                      https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer...ens-soccer-rpi

                      How many???

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Any why would college coaches care if you drop club once you are already well along in the recruitment process in the middle of high school?

                        Also someone else mentioned powerhouse schools. Below is the recent NCAA ranking of women’s soccer college programs. For arguments sake, let’s say the top 20 are powerhouses. There are literally hundreds of girls on “elite” soccer teams in DA, ECNL, NPL, etc. here in New England. Can someone tell me how many of these girls are on these top 20 soccer teams?
                        Their only concern would be if the club or league you're going to isn't seen as challenging enough to get your ready for their level of program. Sometimes it's perception, sometimes it's reality. These days GDA and ECNL are faster paced than most NPL teams because NPL isn't nearly as strong a league as it once was. You're right that around here not many players are going to top 20 powerhouse programs so it matter less.

                        the other ? is when may matter also. Junior year? Probably not a big deal. As a freshmen? Might raise more questions.

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                          #13
                          Let’s say you’re the 3rd center back on an ECNL team. The SSS shake up with DA led their best center back to your team. You are cut, but not because you aren’t developing. It was because of the talent joining the team sophomore year. If they hadn’t joined you would be in the same place as the year before. This is fictional but how would you handle this scenario? Does it even need to be mentioned?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Let’s say you’re the 3rd center back on an ECNL team. The SSS shake up with DA led their best center back to your team. You are cut, but not because you aren’t developing. It was because of the talent joining the team sophomore year. If they hadn’t joined you would be in the same place as the year before. This is fictional but how would you handle this scenario? Does it even need to be mentioned?
                            You should have been a more versatile player....No really. If a player is worth keeping the coach should try you in a different position. But if you're the 3rd CB and that's all you ever played then you weren't doing yourself any favors on that team. A drop down so that you're playing all the time is much better developmentally then always sitting. That's how you position it. Look for the positive spin.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Any why would college coaches care if you drop club once you are already well along in the recruitment process in the middle of high school?

                              Also someone else mentioned powerhouse schools. Below is the recent NCAA ranking of women’s soccer college programs. For arguments sake, let’s say the top 20 are powerhouses. There are literally hundreds of girls on “elite” soccer teams in DA, ECNL, NPL, etc. here in New England. Can someone tell me how many of these girls are on these top 20 soccer teams?
                              It's interesting to look at these lists. Of the top 50, if I'm being generous 15 are schools where academically-minded kids would really want to pursue and attend. A bunch more are "nice" schools, but not what I'd call destinations for kids who are pursuing academics first and foremost.

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