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    Why does soccer suck in Southwest Florida?

    Third bracket teams at best at somewhat competitive tournaments and frequent users of trash recreational level tournaments run by clubs themselves and former Directors and Board Members. Why does the soccer in Southwest Florida suck so much when that area has produced professional baseball and football players?

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    Lacrosse, baseball, football, etc.

    parents believe what they want to believe in and perhaps don’t know better. Best players are leaving soccer for other sports with parents who do know better.

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      #3
      Soccer in SW FL is bad because the players and coaches are bad.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Soccer in SW FL is bad because the players and coaches are bad.
        Worse soccer in Florida? Think they all FYSA. But younger players look so rec that they would never make an Academy club anyway.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Worse soccer in Florida? Think they all FYSA. But younger players look so rec that they would never make an Academy club anyway.
          There is no Academy in SW Florida which is part of the problem. If there were, there is definitely the talent but mediocre coaches are the norm. Club directors are greedy and self serving-RP comes to mind immediately. Too many clubs relative to pool of players. I could go on.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            There is no Academy in SW Florida which is part of the problem. If there were, there is definitely the talent but mediocre coaches are the norm. Club directors are greedy and self serving-RP comes to mind immediately. Too many clubs relative to pool of players. I could go on.
            The same issue exists everywhere in the country.... maybe 30-50 quality players in S.Fla or maybe the state for an age group, those players are spread out among 10-12 clubs. Good luck with that development pool! And likely the best player or best potential, plays in local non-DA/non-ECNL club in Random City, FL due to choice, cost or some other limitation. Or they now play another sport at a high level due to athletic ability no amount of academy training can recreate.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              There is no Academy in SW Florida which is part of the problem. If there were, there is definitely the talent but mediocre coaches are the norm. Club directors are greedy and self serving-RP comes to mind immediately. Too many clubs relative to pool of players. I could go on.
              What about GPS?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                There is no Academy in SW Florida which is part of the problem. If there were, there is definitely the talent but mediocre coaches are the norm. Club directors are greedy and self serving-RP comes to mind immediately. Too many clubs relative to pool of players. I could go on.
                Fire comes across as the worse. Had some of the best talent in the state but lost all of those top players over the years. Now they seem to be a graveyard for not seeing them at anything of importance anymore.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  What about GPS?
                  See above comment about RP, RP. And they have one DA team. And see above comment about mediocre coaches (outside of DF). And see above comment about diluted player pools relative to numbers of clubs, RP.

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                    #10
                    Lower population in SW Florida means less in the way of player pool to pull from. Coaching isn't great in most places, but they have more kids to use. Gotta train the kids you have better and get more from less in order to play with clubs that have more and do less.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Third bracket teams at best at somewhat competitive tournaments and frequent users of trash recreational level tournaments run by clubs themselves and former Directors and Board Members. Why does the soccer in Southwest Florida suck so much when that area has produced professional baseball and football players?

                      1. Not the the most popular sport in US
                      2. Title IX sport
                      3. No revenue collegiate sport
                      3. Foreign Nationals dominate the sport
                      4. Regardless of what folks might feel about the subject, USSF needs to take control of the sport and folks need to stop fighting it. This is a different argument than if USSF is doing a good job of it but as of now, it is too splintered with clubs, leagues and development.

                      All these reasons lead to poor soccer everywhere. It is just more glaringly obvious in Florida because the talent is here, just not the success.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        1. Not the the most popular sport in US
                        2. Title IX sport
                        3. No revenue collegiate sport
                        3. Foreign Nationals dominate the sport
                        4. Regardless of what folks might feel about the subject, USSF needs to take control of the sport and folks need to stop fighting it. This is a different argument than if USSF is doing a good job of it but as of now, it is too splintered with clubs, leagues and development.

                        All these reasons lead to poor soccer everywhere. It is just more glaringly obvious in Florida because the talent is here, just not the success.
                        Florida has talent and top clubs in the state do well outside the state. USSF are a mess, but the USA on the men's side has closed the gap and now competes with top level nations. The gap is closing on the women's side but that was to be expected however they will always be a top nation in the sport.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Florida has talent and top clubs in the state do well outside the state. USSF are a mess, but the USA on the men's side has closed the gap and now competes with top level nations. The gap is closing on the women's side but that was to be expected however they will always be a top nation in the sport.

                          US Men just failed to qualify for WC out of the easiest region, so lets not get crazy.

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                            #14
                            Nepotism

                            RM destroyed Sharks and Fire.

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                              #15
                              Opinion from experience

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              RM destroyed Sharks and Fire.
                              Yes at one time Sharks/Fire were winning major tournaments from Atlanta to Orlando to Miami and had a number one ranked team in USA. But those players were screwed as was the great team behind them and left when they saw the M&m kick out GS and made it about themselves and cronies and not about the kids. Unless it was their kids.

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