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    Are clubs really needed for DIII teams?

    Our player loves soccer and has some skills but does not want to play D1.

    Coach said its important to keep playing club thru high school to get on any college team, including DIII. But after 3 years of club (NEP) we're feeling done as the club does not support individual development for kids who are not on NPL.

    We don't our kid to have to leave the sport in college because they left a club in high school.

    Would private coaching sessions and the high school team be enough?

    #2
    Again? Really?

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      #3
      Your question is internally inconsistent. Kids burning to play in college want to play year round, at the highest level they can.

      If a kid doesn't have that fire and drive pursuing college soccer (at any level) makes no sense.

      Not saying they can't play club or intramural soccer once they are at a school, which can be a lot of fun. But making soccer part of the factors considered when applying makes no sense in this case.

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        #4
        My gawd, how many times can you post this?

        Sad for the few of us who come here to catch news, not agendas.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Your question is internally inconsistent. Kids burning to play in college want to play year round, at the highest level they can.

          If a kid doesn't have that fire and drive pursuing college soccer (at any level) makes no sense.

          Not saying they can't play club or intramural soccer once they are at a school, which can be a lot of fun. But making soccer part of the factors considered when applying makes no sense in this case.
          Agree with this.
          Reality is that you need club soccer to make any decent HS team.
          To actually play D3 soccer requires competitive club preparation.

          What you don't need are aggressive travel schedules for league and showcase.
          For the most part grades matter more than soccer. Get good at soccer, get better grades send email to coach and attend a camp or two. You can then tell friends you were "recruited" to play soccer at Colby.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Our player loves soccer and has some skills but does not want to play D1.

            Coach said its important to keep playing club thru high school to get on any college team, including DIII. But after 3 years of club (NEP) we're feeling done as the club does not support individual development for kids who are not on NPL.

            We don't our kid to have to leave the sport in college because they left a club in high school.

            Would private coaching sessions and the high school team be enough?
            Shouldn't you be out doing holiday shopping or spending time with family?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Would private coaching sessions and the high school team be enough?
              Pay close attention to what you're about to read:


              Yes.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Would private coaching sessions and the high school team be enough?
                Pay close attention...

                Is your kid the best athlete in a five town area? If the answer is No, then the other answer is No.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Pay close attention...

                  Is your kid the best athlete in a five town area? If the answer is No, then the other answer is No.
                  You're overrating the value of club soccer as well as the quality of D3 soccer (and possibly under the influence of drugs or alcohol).

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                    #10
                    There is of course an extremely wide range in D3 soccer- big difference between Williams and Colby, and bigger between Colby and Pine Manor (just to pick on someone). There are D3 schools at the low end that struggle to get enough kids to have a roster. Then there's the resident expert who will tell you you don't need to play club to play at Williams- good luck with that.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Your question is internally inconsistent. Kids burning to play in college want to play year round, at the highest level they can.

                      If a kid doesn't have that fire and drive pursuing college soccer (at any level) makes no sense.
                      By far the most accurate and logical statements in the thread (and on this endless topic for quite a while).

                      The days of even the stud athlete playing soccer for 2.5 months a year in high school and an occasional pickup game actually playing for a top third D3 are over, except in extraordinary circumstances.

                      The issue isn't club soccer per se, but year long training and competition sufficient to push kids to get better and to be in optimal competitive form (for them), and only fools believe that a half-*****ed approach by even relatively talented players will yield real playing time for top end D3s. Of course, instead of debating on and on, we could simply look at the facts and look at the backgrounds of the kids who get significant playing time at such schools. Some because of their own pathetic agendas simply won't concede to obvious reality.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Our player loves soccer and has some skills but does not want to play D1.

                        Coach said its important to keep playing club thru high school to get on any college team, including DIII. But after 3 years of club (NEP) we're feeling done as the club does not support individual development for kids who are not on NPL.

                        We don't our kid to have to leave the sport in college because they left a club in high school.

                        Would private coaching sessions and the high school team be enough?
                        Just leave the sport in college beyond some rec play. Onward and upwards. Open a new chapter.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Then there's the resident expert who will tell you you don't need to play club to play at Williams- good luck with that.
                          No one actually made that argument. A very specific question was asked within several details provided in a post. The answer was pretty straightforward.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            By far the most accurate and logical statements in the thread (and on this endless topic for quite a while).

                            The days of even the stud athlete playing soccer for 2.5 months a year in high school and an occasional pickup game actually playing for a top third D3 are over, except in extraordinary circumstances.

                            The issue isn't club soccer per se, but year long training and competition sufficient to push kids to get better and to be in optimal competitive form (for them), and only fools believe that a half-*****ed approach by even relatively talented players will yield real playing time for top end D3s. Of course, instead of debating on and on, we could simply look at the facts and look at the backgrounds of the kids who get significant playing time at such schools. Some because of their own pathetic agendas simply won't concede to obvious reality.
                            The part that has never computed is why would you want to encourage a kid to put all of the work that you are saying is necessary to play soccer for Williams? Most people pick that type of school for it's education, not because of it's sports teams and the sort of passion that you insist is necessary to make one of their athletic teams is usually directed towards academics. Are you trying to make the case that the students that go a school like Williams are so gifted and talented that they don't have to work on their academics and have tons of extra time to spend trying to make their soccer team instead?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The part that has never computed is why would you want to encourage a kid to put all of the work that you are saying is necessary to play soccer for Williams? Most people pick that type of school for it's education, not because of it's sports teams and the sort of passion that you insist is necessary to make one of their athletic teams is usually directed towards academics. Are you trying to make the case that the students that go a school like Williams are so gifted and talented that they don't have to work on their academics and have tons of extra time to spend trying to make their soccer team instead?
                              You mustn't have a kid that fits the Williams profile. These kids tend to be very driven in everything they do. They usually don't need "encouragement" from their parents.

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