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    In what other sports is winning not important?

    Seriously. Coaches aren't supposed to focus on winning until the U14 or U15 level.

    Are there other sports where this is also true?

    #2
    trolling.

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      #3
      War Games?

      "The only way to win ... is not to play"

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        #4
        Snowflakes everywhere

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          #5
          Trolling are we? Let me school you troll. Winning isn't important in any youth sports. The value of sports are in the competition, not winning. There are enough articles and discussion about development vs winning, and I'm not going to rehash that, but if you honestly think that playing to win is the same as playing to develop, you have no clue about soccer or youth development and shouldn't be within 100ft of a field (or kids).

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Trolling are we? Let me school you troll. Winning isn't important in any youth sports. The value of sports are in the competition, not winning. There are enough articles and discussion about development vs winning, and I'm not going to rehash that, but if you honestly think that playing to win is the same as playing to develop, you have no clue about soccer or youth development and shouldn't be within 100ft of a field (or kids).
            Lighten up Francis. We keep score for a reason.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Trolling are we? Let me school you troll. Winning isn't important in any youth sports. The value of sports are in the competition, not winning. There are enough articles and discussion about development vs winning, and I'm not going to rehash that, but if you honestly think that playing to win is the same as playing to develop, you have no clue about soccer or youth development and shouldn't be within 100ft of a field (or kids).
              Competition? What are they competing for? To play well? To be developed?

              Ever hear about a kid that played a game because they wanted development instead of to win the game? Me neither.

              You're not a Tantric Priest, are you?

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                #8
                Funny thing about kids - they like to win. You can take away scores and standings but they know. It motivates them to do better, play harder

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Seriously. Coaches aren't supposed to focus on winning until the U14 or U15 level.

                  Are there other sports where this is also true?
                  You're either being ignorant or disingenuous. No one has ever actually said "winning" wasn't important. But the focus on the team's result, whether that's to serve the coach's ego, the club's bank account or the parent's psychosis to the detriment of optimal individual player development comes at a great cost. It's happening plenty in other sports, but the difference is that as a country we had a much longer and deeper grassroots participation and culture in those sports, from the playground court to the frozen cow pond, before nutjob adults and pay-to-play came along to **** it up.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Seriously. Coaches aren't supposed to focus on winning until the U14 or U15 level.

                    Are there other sports where this is also true?
                    All middle school sports.

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                      #11
                      Whoever said winning is not important, probably lost the game.

                      Generation snowflake........participation award.

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                        #12
                        Everyone plays to win when they are on the field in a game.Anyone who says they dont or should not is deluded. the issue is how many times we place our youth in that environment and to what end.

                        Training is to develop the skills required to win.

                        Its become politically unacceptable to admit you want to win and its just as disingenuous to use the word development as an excuse for many other short comings.

                        Winning is not important enough at this level to sacrifice relationships, principles and kids to do so. That means you dont need to always play your best XI, push kids to the brink of injury, bend the rules, abuse officials etc as some do. Losing is also a big part of development.

                        Everyone should be trying to win when called upon, but we play far to many results oriented formats and competitive games at the expense of really learning the fundamentals

                        Lastly , WINNING needs to be broadly defined. There are long and short term goals.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Whoever said winning is not important, probably lost the game.

                          Generation snowflake........participation award.
                          100% trolling.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Winning is not important enough at this level to sacrifice relationships, principles and kids to do so.
                            But we do, often enough that it's at least an argument, a big one, if not our identity in youth sports.

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                              #15
                              The reason why we took steps forward in the game in the last 30 years, and then leveled off, is because many were lulled into the false sense of security that we were surely doing well enough. All we cared about was winning.

                              We would waltz through qualifying, we were making knock-out rounds, we beat some really good teams (sometimes even at close-to-full-strength). We were doing it with brute force and speed and guts. In the meantime, our actual play quality got worse and worse. It finally caught up to us in a bad way.

                              So, let's still keep score, let's still strive to win every competitive battle (whether it be 1-on-1 or 5v5 or 11v11 or whatever), but let's continue to push our concentration onto HOW we are doing it, so we can try to improve.

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