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    Handball/pk or not?

    Yesterday during my daughters game, the referee called a handball (and pk) vs one of the girls from the other team. What happened was there was shot from about 25 yards out, and the defender (inside the penalty box) puts her arms up to protect her from the ball hitting her chest (boobs). The ref calls handball and pk...I thought it was a bit harsh.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yesterday during my daughters game, the referee called a handball (and pk) vs one of the girls from the other team. What happened was there was shot from about 25 yards out, and the defender (inside the penalty box) puts her arms up to protect her from the ball hitting her chest (boobs). The ref calls handball and pk...I thought it was a bit harsh.
    Hardball, sorry and not harsh at all!!

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      #3
      Was her arm tight to her body, no extension or daylight showing, so in effect if it didn't hit her arm then it would've just hit her chest?

      Did it take a 'natural' deflection, or was it settled down and easily cleared after it hit her arm?

      How old?

      Seems pretty harsh to me.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Hardball, sorry and not harsh at all!!
        Sorry, handball!

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          #5
          Sorry , it was U14 girls and yes it hit her right in the arm, which were tugged in tight to her chest

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Sorry , it was U14 girls and yes it hit her right in the arm, which were tugged in tight to her chest
            Clear handball. Kid should have just moved out of the way (think about that for a moment).

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Clear handball. Kid should have just moved out of the way (think about that for a moment).
              Doesn't sound clear cut to me. Arms tight to the body in a protective (not advantageous) manner is frequently a non call.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Doesn't sound clear cut to me. Arms tight to the body in a protective (not advantageous) manner is frequently a non call.
                Kid could have moved out of the way. Instead, played the ball with her arm. At U14.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Doesn't sound clear cut to me. Arms tight to the body in a protective (not advantageous) manner is frequently a non call.
                  25 yards out is your problem here, this is more than enough time for the defender to make a move to head the ball out or get out of the way for the keeper to make a save. I think the only thing to discuss here is should a yellow card have also been given as well as the PK. Last year it would have been a PK and Red Card, but this year I think they changed the rule and Ref can give a yellow instead plus the PK.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    25 yards out is your problem here, this is more than enough time for the defender to make a move to head the ball out or get out of the way for the keeper to make a save. I think the only thing to discuss here is should a yellow card have also been given as well as the PK. Last year it would have been a PK and Red Card, but this year I think they changed the rule and Ref can give a yellow instead plus the PK.
                    I doubt she was standing on the goal line. Maybes seven yards away? "It is handling if the player plays the ball, but not handling if the ball plays the player".
                    You can usually tell if it was a deliberate attempt to control the balls trajectory, an unavoidable and non deliberate touch or a deliberate attempt to protect ones self.
                    It's up to the ref's interpretation... the rule leaves some leeway.

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                      #11
                      I hope everyone is signing up for an upcoming ref class. Refs are always needed.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I hope everyone is signing up for an upcoming ref class. Refs are always needed.
                        Are you crazy? No way am I reffing and dealing with the abuse from the parents.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I hope everyone is signing up for an upcoming ref class. Refs are always needed.
                          Right, the superiority complex that Cujo presents on here? No thanks...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            25 yards out is your problem here, this is more than enough time for the defender to make a move to head the ball out or get out of the way for the keeper to make a save. I think the only thing to discuss here is should a yellow card have also been given as well as the PK. Last year it would have been a PK and Red Card, but this year I think they changed the rule and Ref can give a yellow instead plus the PK.
                            Doesn't say how far away she was from the shot, only that she shot from 25 yards out. I got the impression there wasn't much time to move, and the ball more likely played her and she made no clear attempt to stop a goal-scoring opportunity.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Yesterday during my daughters game, the referee called a handball (and pk) vs one of the girls from the other team. What happened was there was shot from about 25 yards out, and the defender (inside the penalty box) puts her arms up to protect her from the ball hitting her chest (boobs). The ref calls handball and pk...I thought it was a bit harsh.
                              'vs one of the girls from the other team'......

                              Something tells me this was a PK against your daughter's team, not the 'other team'. My guess is, you're upset that your daughter's team was penalized and are also lying by saying it was called against the other team because you want people's opinions here to help you feel better about yourself.

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