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    ENPL question

    Hoping to get more information on the ENPL for boys: http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/lea...r-league-enpl/

    Other than what's posted above, if you have any add'l info on timing, clubs etc, can you please share here? thanks

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hoping to get more information on the ENPL for boys: http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/lea...r-league-enpl/

    Other than what's posted above, if you have any add'l info on timing, clubs etc, can you please share here? thanks
    Clubs that are currently ECNL with boys programs are the most likely target first. After that look for other top NPL clubs. Other than that, that's about all there is right now. ECNL is busy trying to save their girls side and there doesn't seem to have been much effort put forth on this one yet.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Clubs that are currently ECNL with boys programs are the most likely target first. After that look for other top NPL clubs. Other than that, that's about all there is right now. ECNL is busy trying to save their girls side and there doesn't seem to have been much effort put forth on this one yet.
      True - except the part about saving the girls side - clubs have already started backing out of WDAP....

      http://www.matchfitacademy.net/home/841922.html

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        True - except the part about saving the girls side - clubs have already started backing out of WDAP....

        http://www.matchfitacademy.net/home/841922.html
        I heard about them - not the only club - heard 2-3 others already backed out

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Clubs that are currently ECNL with boys programs are the most likely target first. After that look for other top NPL clubs. Other than that, that's about all there is right now. ECNL is busy trying to save their girls side and there doesn't seem to have been much effort put forth on this one yet.
          Thanks very much for this information. I'll continue checking the site for more updates.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Thanks very much for this information. I'll continue checking the site for more updates.
            I would think they'd start moving on this soon - start taking applications later this fall so they can sort out who is in, what the brackets will be etc so that all clubs know their plans prior to spring tryouts

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              True - except the part about saving the girls side - clubs have already started backing out of WDAP....

              http://www.matchfitacademy.net/home/841922.html
              This marketing message brought to courtesy of FC Boston. The always seem to forget to say that MatchFit was actually a poor fit for a DA franchise in the first place and that their decision was more about marketing issues than any concerns about the quality of anything to do with a DA.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I would think they'd start moving on this soon - start taking applications later this fall so they can sort out who is in, what the brackets will be etc so that all clubs know their plans prior to spring tryouts
                The strongest non DA program that is going to end up being in the ENPL will without question be NEFC followed by the Stars. FC Boston is a engineerless train screaming towards the end of the track so definitely steer clear of them.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This marketing message brought to courtesy of FC Boston. The always seem to forget to say that MatchFit was actually a poor fit for a DA franchise in the first place and that their decision was more about marketing issues than any concerns about the quality of anything to do with a DA.
                  Doesn't change the fact that a few other clubs have dropped out. One of the reasons MF cited (which may not be their primary reason) is that the NE region is too saturated and they felt that was inconsistent with the mission of DA. There is a great deal of truth to that, regardless of their financial status. The other reality is some clubs simply won't be able to do DA and ECNL and are coming to that realization. A club has to be big, profitable and pool from a big talent population. Not all clubs fit that description so you'll see more picking one or the other soon enough, or the leagues doing it for them

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The strongest non DA program that is going to end up being in the ENPL will without question be NEFC followed by the Stars. FC Boston is a engineerless train screaming towards the end of the track so definitely steer clear of them.
                    This post is a pretty glaring example of little man syndrome.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Doesn't change the fact that a few other clubs have dropped out. One of the reasons MF cited (which may not be their primary reason) is that the NE region is too saturated and they felt that was inconsistent with the mission of DA. There is a great deal of truth to that, regardless of their financial status. The other reality is some clubs simply won't be able to do DA and ECNL and are coming to that realization. A club has to be big, profitable and pool from a big talent population. Not all clubs fit that description so you'll see more picking one or the other soon enough, or the leagues doing it for them
                      Why did they even apply in the first place? Everyone knew PDA would get a spot. That's their main competition for talent.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Doesn't change the fact that a few other clubs have dropped out. One of the reasons MF cited (which may not be their primary reason) is that the NE region is too saturated and they felt that was inconsistent with the mission of DA. There is a great deal of truth to that, regardless of their financial status. The other reality is some clubs simply won't be able to do DA and ECNL and are coming to that realization. A club has to be big, profitable and pool from a big talent population. Not all clubs fit that description so you'll see more picking one or the other soon enough, or the leagues doing it for them
                        What is going to end up is a situation like we've had on the boy's side for years where we've had the two DA clubs and then there were several other non DA clubs like the Blazers that were producing results on a fairly consistent basis. I think many would agree that that model was actually working and the spending on the boys side has been far saner than it is on the girls side because of it. The issue with the boys ENPL is going to be the cost. If parent's think the numbers aren't working now because there is so few scholarship opportunities on the boys side, how are they going to feel about dramatically expanding their spending just to end up in the same place. Any ideas that the ENPL is going to somehow elevate a player over a DA player should just be flushed down the drain. Increased exposure will never make up for a talent differential and the ENPL will always be perceived as the second tier regardless of how much marketing US Club Soccer does.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why did they even apply in the first place? Everyone knew PDA would get a spot. That's their main competition for talent.
                          Precisely, they are just much smarter than the folks over at FC Boston. Could you see them making that sort of a decision?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Why did they even apply in the first place? Everyone knew PDA would get a spot. That's their main competition for talent.
                            Hedging their bets. Since then more information has come to light about who is in, what the brackets look like etc. None of that was available in May when applications went in. Better to apply and say no later than run the risk of being shut out altogether

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              What is going to end up is a situation like we've had on the boy's side for years where we've had the two DA clubs and then there were several other non DA clubs like the Blazers that were producing results on a fairly consistent basis. I think many would agree that that model was actually working and the spending on the boys side has been far saner than it is on the girls side because of it. The issue with the boys ENPL is going to be the cost. If parent's think the numbers aren't working now because there is so few scholarship opportunities on the boys side, how are they going to feel about dramatically expanding their spending just to end up in the same place. Any ideas that the ENPL is going to somehow elevate a player over a DA player should just be flushed down the drain. Increased exposure will never make up for a talent differential and the ENPL will always be perceived as the second tier regardless of how much marketing US Club Soccer does.
                              I don't think anyone thinks EPNL will elevate a player over a DA player (in general - there are some very good non DA players out there and plenty of no-so-good DA players). But what it offers is a national platform and a more cohesive national league. Right now the strength of NPL or other is very regional and it isn't always easy to determine a hierarchy. We know it will be the #2 league but at least it will be a clear #2 where one doesn't exist right now. I also think enough current DA or considering DA players will be interested - good soccer without sacrificing HS sports. Plenty in the DA system now see it's pretty flawed. And if you're with a pay-to-play non MLS club now you're already paying a decent amount. Up until ENPL players had no options, now they will.

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