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    Does anyone know why the MIAA allows HS football to start tomorrow but the HS soccer start date isn't until next week?

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Does anyone know why the MIAA allows HS football to start tomorrow but the HS soccer start date isn't until next week?
    And cheerleading too !!!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Does anyone know why the MIAA allows HS football to start tomorrow but the HS soccer start date isn't until next week?
      does anyone care
      is cheering a sport? does it involve a ball?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        does anyone care
        is cheering a sport? does it involve a ball?
        Apparently it has been designated as such.
        I don't get the football starting early things either. It's always been that way. And the season goes much longer than soccer with thanksgiving and superbowls

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Apparently it has been designated as such.
          I don't get the football starting early things either. It's always been that way. And the season goes much longer than soccer with thanksgiving and superbowls
          Everyday in football is scripted. Offense, defense, even special teams. Teams are much larger as well with many more coaches.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Everyday in football is scripted. Offense, defense, even special teams. Teams are much larger as well with many more coaches.
            Every play not day

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Does anyone know why the MIAA allows HS football to start tomorrow but the HS soccer start date isn't until next week?
              The MIAA could help itself by posting the rationale for the difference for football.

              It seems that this difference has been in place for a long time. It probably exists in most states. The justification is probably safety, and how fottball is "different." But, if educators were really interested in fairness for all, gender equity, etc., the different length of season (both the start and end) for one sport vs others would be eliminated. Yes, it would be an adjustment, and things that are considered "sacred" would be sacrificed. But in every sport, the participants have adjusted to the calendar constraints they are given.

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                #8
                Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that football plays only one game a week? Seven or eight game season, plus playoffs and no games Labor Day weekend - puts you into November.

                Cheer is governed by the MSSAA. Primarily because if governed by the MIAA all the varsity sport rules about out of season contact and length of seasons would come into play. By calling cheer an activity rather than a sport you can let kids cheer at games and competitions, and have two seasons. Effect is to make cheer the toughest sport/activity to participate in for a kid.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Does anyone know why the MIAA allows HS football to start tomorrow but the HS soccer start date isn't until next week?
                  Football needs more time to prepare. It makes sense.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that football plays only one game a week? Seven or eight game season, plus playoffs and no games Labor Day weekend - puts you into November.

                    Cheer is governed by the MSSAA. Primarily because if governed by the MIAA all the varsity sport rules about out of season contact and length of seasons would come into play. By calling cheer an activity rather than a sport you can let kids cheer at games and competitions, and have two seasons. Effect is to make cheer the toughest sport/activity to participate in for a kid.
                    Few of the fall sports play labor day weekend, so that's not it. most high schools play an 11-game season, currently allocated 7 for the regular season, 3 for tournament and 1 for thanksgiving day. There are 11 weekends after labor day and before thanksgiving, so just like every sport it COULD be fit into that time block. Not doing it would invoke things like the importance of thanksgiving day games and the final game being after thanksgiving. however if educators thought of fairness first, they might not allow only one sport to be played on a school holiday, but rotate by year which sport plays that day. or like other school holidays, have no school events scheduled that day.

                    Also, the 1 game per week pattern is not ironclad. Note that football tourney games have sometimes been played on tuesdays with winners to meet on saturday. At high levels, soccer is only played once per week as well. From a physical perspective, not sure a 48-minute (is that right - 12-minute quarters?) HS football game with all the breaks requires more recovery time than an 80-minute soccer game. The once a week pattern for football is a legacy of scheduling for attendance and entertainment purposes. But if educators started from scratch, with the idea that fairness and student health were the foundation, we would not have the exceptions for football, the over-scheduling of games in soccer, etc.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      blah, blah blah.. , they might not allow only one sport to be played on a school holiday, but rotate by year which sport plays that day.

                      blah, blah, blah. From a physical perspective, not sure a 48-minute (is that right - 12-minute quarters?) HS football game with all the breaks requires more recovery time than an 80-minute soccer game.
                      So this is all about Thanksgiving crowds showing up to see little Benjamin play soccer.
                      State Tourney under the lights is way better than thanksgiving

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        From a physical perspective, not sure a 48-minute (is that right - 12-minute quarters?) HS football game with all the breaks requires more recovery time than an 80-minute soccer game.
                        Wrong - different kind of physical activity.

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                          #13
                          It would be amazing if soccer moved to one game a week

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                            #14
                            Has more to do with required practice day's before first game, most are no contact practices.
                            http://www.miaa.net/gen/miaa_generat...imitations.pdf

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Has more to do with required practice day's before first game, most are no contact practices.
                              http://www.miaa.net/gen/miaa_generat...imitations.pdf
                              Well, the extended scheduling for football has been in place a long time, long before the prescriptions about whether practice had contact or not. The scheduling IS partly about beliefs and even rules about amount of practice before games, but NOT about contact.

                              That doesn't changed the earlier contention that if educators' first principle were fairness to all students independent of their sport, they do not need to have a different season for football than other sports. They could have fewer practices before the first game, if they wanted. If they thought the number of practices was higher priority, they could make the date of first game a few days later. Play on the following monday or tuesday instead of the preceding saturday, for example. It takes a mindset of, to be fair, a golfer or field hockey player should not get less of the benefits of school-based athletics as a footballer.

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