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    Is Region 1 ODP ID camp fixed?

    Can a elite ecnl player be overlooked for five days and not put into ID pool once? Is it possible? Discuss

    #2
    I swear this was a thread last summer.

    Yes it can happen. Because she's not "elite" in the eyes of the coaches.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered
      I swear this was a thread last summer.

      Yes it can happen. Because she's not "elite" in the eyes of the coaches.
      ODP has gotten a lot of criticism, and it deserves it. Just ask the women on the WNT who were cut or didn't make the regional pool. It happens every year.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Can a elite ecnl player be overlooked for five days and not put into ID pool once? Is it possible? Discuss
        I thought odp was useless for ecnl kids. Don't tell me she's being overlooked by ID2 and odp ?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          ODP has gotten a lot of criticism, and it deserves it. Just ask the women on the WNT who were cut or didn't make the regional pool. It happens every year.
          Doesn't mean it's fixed. Those who were cut probably were not cut year in and year out. Players do change over time.

          However, I think what it probably means the coaches are clueless. I'm sticking with that reason.

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            #6
            It is not "fixed" but it is not an open competition for every spot. There are so many variables that go into getting selected. It seems the trick is to make the pool at an early age. The older you are, the harder it is to make the pool. You would really need to stand out to bump a player who has already been IDed. Just as it is hard to bump an incumbent from an established team.

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              #7
              They know who they want b4 id camp even happens. (If that = fixed)

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It is not "fixed" but it is not an open competition for every spot. There are so many variables that go into getting selected. It seems the trick is to make the pool at an early age. The older you are, the harder it is to make the pool. You would really need to stand out to bump a player who has already been IDed. Just as it is hard to bump an incumbent from an established team.
                I think this is the same with every selection process, even forming club teams. You have to be BETTER than, not just as good as, the existing player to bump them out. There are quite a few really good players, but very few elite players. We use that word way too much to define players. Every club seems to have an "elite" team, but maybe only 1-2 elite players actually plan on that team.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Can a elite ecnl player be overlooked for five days and not put into ID pool once? Is it possible? Discuss
                  Why are you at ODP if you are in ECNL?

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                    #10
                    Yes, they can be overlooked. The coach is looking to fill positions. Some of these positions have been filled (deservedly) by the same girls for years and bumping them out is all but impossible unless their talent peaks. If this happens, or girls drop out or have club commitments the week of camp, some new people can slide in.

                    At the older age groups, only the first 18 girls really get any real reward. The others selected for the pool are just great Facebook updates for their parents and a line in their Top Drawer bio.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I swear this was a thread last summer.

                      Yes it can happen. Because she's not "elite" in the eyes of the coaches.
                      Bingo! But you are sure read a lot of criticism of ODP when the simple fact is the peddle us just hitting the metal here and parents are surprised by it. Time to start looking at your club coach and asking why. 9 out 10 times they are the one blowing sunshine up your woo woo and the person who your ire should be directed at

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                        #12
                        Isn't the first and won't be the last time league and club affiliation influence the selection process. A few years back there was a kid in my daughters age group who was clearly a stand out that didn't get a sniff because of her club affiliation. She started as a freshman at a top local D1, playing at a higher level than only a couple other local players on the regional team. Life isn't fair.

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                          #13
                          Some clubs promote ODP. Others don't. That can be a factor, too.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I swear this was a thread last summer.

                            Yes it can happen. Because she's not "elite" in the eyes of the coaches.
                            There are surprises every year both ways. We've seen kids that have been to National camps not make list. Kids are kids. They can have off days and weeks. Regardless - they all need to learn to lose gracefully. Can't always get what you want. Question is - do you whine and complain, or work harder and fight back?

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                              #15
                              Define elite.

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