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    Isn't 22 2003's on the roster way too many?

    How many kids is too many on the team? My daughter was chosen for an ECNL team, but we just learned there will be 22 on the roster (as of now...i guess if a stud moves in from out of state there could always be 23)

    We are new to ECNL and it seems like the team will only play ~30 games, which divided by 22 means not a lot of playing time to go around, even though only 18 can dress in a game. And of course some will play more than others

    Am i crazy to think my kid just won't develop like she would on a smaller team, even if that means moving to a club/league that has a lower level of play?

    Thanks

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    How many kids is too many on the team? My daughter was chosen for an ECNL team, but we just learned there will be 22 on the roster (as of now...i guess if a stud moves in from out of state there could always be 23)

    We are new to ECNL and it seems like the team will only play ~30 games, which divided by 22 means not a lot of playing time to go around, even though only 18 can dress in a game. And of course some will play more than others

    Am i crazy to think my kid just won't develop like she would on a smaller team, even if that means moving to a club/league that has a lower level of play?

    Thanks
    I would not worry. Stars generaly will demote a few during the year down to their npl team. Let's look at it this way, if your kid was offered npl out of the gate would you take the offer? Probably not so its a total win win for the club.

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      #3
      So I dont have a daughter who plays and my son is a bit younger, but I have a question about this scenario. If a club extends a contract to a player for their top team like ECNL knowing the player might end up NPL but still wants to keep them, is that player able to then go to a different ECNL team for another club ? Or is this just a common bait and switch thing that then player could do nothing about.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        How many kids is too many on the team? My daughter was chosen for an ECNL team, but we just learned there will be 22 on the roster (as of now...i guess if a stud moves in from out of state there could always be 23)

        We are new to ECNL and it seems like the team will only play ~30 games, which divided by 22 means not a lot of playing time to go around, even though only 18 can dress in a game. And of course some will play more than others

        Am i crazy to think my kid just won't develop like she would on a smaller team, even if that means moving to a club/league that has a lower level of play?

        Thanks
        Yes, unless you are one of the chosen few, expect to play 50% or less during games. Also expect to sit out at least 1 Ecnl weekend. The only offset is injuries. It is not an enjoyable situation. We have lived through the experience, this spring and needless to say, have arranged a new situation for 2016-2017.

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          #5
          It is a bit heavy for that age, but once you hit the HS ages and injuries are rampant then 22 is SOP. The issue becomes only 18 can roster for game day. If you're at the bottom of that roster time and time again then you're just a check to the club.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            How many kids is too many on the team? My daughter was chosen for an ECNL team, but we just learned there will be 22 on the roster (as of now...i guess if a stud moves in from out of state there could always be 23)

            We are new to ECNL and it seems like the team will only play ~30 games, which divided by 22 means not a lot of playing time to go around, even though only 18 can dress in a game. And of course some will play more than others

            Am i crazy to think my kid just won't develop like she would on a smaller team, even if that means moving to a club/league that has a lower level of play?

            Thanks
            Yes 22 is,way too many. Find a different club. Imagine going to PA to play and your kids maybe plays 20 min the whole weekend. Is that what you want for you kid?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Yes 22 is,way too many. Find a different club. Imagine going to PA to play and your kids maybe plays 20 min the whole weekend. Is that what you want for you kid?
              All depends - if your kid is a starter, maybe through #14 I'd stick with it. Anything past that drop down to NPL where you'll get more PT. Unfortunately since the OP is new to it he probably doesn't have a good sense of where his D fits in.

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                #8
                It really depends. Injuries are a problem as girls get older. And sitting on the bench doesn't make a lot of sense, so filling in on NPL does not seem like a bad thing. Dap has the same issue. Some kids play the whole game, and some fill in for ten minutes. I think it comes down to your kid and the level of training. If the training is good, then the only questions are whether she will work hard to get playing time or whether she will be discouraged?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It really depends. Injuries are a problem as girls get older. And sitting on the bench doesn't make a lot of sense, so filling in on NPL does not seem like a bad thing. Dap has the same issue. Some kids play the whole game, and some fill in for ten minutes. I think it comes down to your kid and the level of training. If the training is good, then the only questions are whether she will work hard to get playing time or whether she will be discouraged?
                  She will most likely be discouraged. Look at the coach assignments (they are out) and you will get it. Also forget about approaching the coach during the season.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    So I dont have a daughter who plays and my son is a bit younger, but I have a question about this scenario. If a club extends a contract to a player for their top team like ECNL knowing the player might end up NPL but still wants to keep them, is that player able to then go to a different ECNL team for another club ? Or is this just a common bait and switch thing that then player could do nothing about.
                    Love this. No reason to be interested at all but still presenting a very detailed post with strong negative overtones.

                    Here's what you need to know.

                    Stars will always have 23 and they've already slotted 8 of them for NPL but won't tell you until the check is in and you can't get out of the contract.

                    NEFC will never roster more than 15 because of their strict club guidelines and devotion to the clientele and development principles based on the latest evidence-based practices in child and adolescent psychology. NEFC also guarantees a free, four year (five years if you are NT material) ISL education. That's a savings of over 200K. You'll also get a full ride to Duke or Stanford, meaning that you'll actually MAKE 500K by playing with NEFC. That's not even including the guaranteed professional contract which is good for a minimum of 5 years and can be used for any European professional team of your choice or for our local WPSL club right here in Boston. You also will never be forced to attend any tournaments, even if the team can't field a starting XI, and your kid won't lose her starting slot either. NEFC's contracts also allow you out of your contract at any time with no questions asked, all of your money back, and a $3000 "happy exit compliments of NEFC because we care" voucher to Jack's ToyotaWorld in Lancaster.

                    Obviously spots on the NEFC ECNL teams will be extremely tight, so if you are forced to take a slot with Stars there is a silver lining. If you are one of the players who never gets to see the field and never makes the travel roster, you'll be saving tens of thousands of dollars on those ultra-expensive West Coast trips.

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                      #11
                      NEFC is looking for 2003s and 2001s. That's not a secret.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Love this. No reason to be interested at all but still presenting a very detailed post with strong negative overtones.

                        Here's what you need to know.

                        Stars will always have 23 and they've already slotted 8 of them for NPL but won't tell you until the check is in and you can't get out of the contract.

                        NEFC will never roster more than 15 because of their strict club guidelines and devotion to the clientele and development principles based on the latest evidence-based practices in child and adolescent psychology. NEFC also guarantees a free, four year (five years if you are NT material) ISL education. That's a savings of over 200K. You'll also get a full ride to Duke or Stanford, meaning that you'll actually MAKE 500K by playing with NEFC. That's not even including the guaranteed professional contract which is good for a minimum of 5 years and can be used for any European professional team of your choice or for our local WPSL club right here in Boston. You also will never be forced to attend any tournaments, even if the team can't field a starting XI, and your kid won't lose her starting slot either. NEFC's contracts also allow you out of your contract at any time with no questions asked, all of your money back, and a $3000 "happy exit compliments of NEFC because we care" voucher to Jack's ToyotaWorld in Lancaster.

                        Obviously spots on the NEFC ECNL teams will be extremely tight, so if you are forced to take a slot with Stars there is a silver lining. If you are one of the players who never gets to see the field and never makes the travel roster, you'll be saving tens of thousands of dollars on those ultra-expensive West Coast trips.
                        Well guess you'll be going with the Stars then. Doubt anyone at NEFC will mind.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          How many kids is too many on the team? My daughter was chosen for an ECNL team, but we just learned there will be 22 on the roster (as of now...i guess if a stud moves in from out of state there could always be 23)

                          We are new to ECNL and it seems like the team will only play ~30 games, which divided by 22 means not a lot of playing time to go around, even though only 18 can dress in a game. And of course some will play more than others

                          Am i crazy to think my kid just won't develop like she would on a smaller team, even if that means moving to a club/league that has a lower level of play?

                          Thanks
                          Which club?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            NEFC is looking for 2003s and 2001s. That's not a secret.
                            2001 center defenders to be specific

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              2001 center defenders to be specific
                              The Kryptonite has been taken out of the box. So the current u16 elite CB who is moving to 99/98 created an 00 CB spot filled by a U15. Check. 01's have not found one yet and it's this far along.

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