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    very important what costs should be if for kids not massive profits for club owners

    what costs should be if for the kids - not massive profits for club owners

    I have read a lot of the posts on the big clubs and it is scary. You guys are being ripped off every way possible. Even some fo the smaller clubs charging 2K +

    As my player is on Commonwealth FC U16 boys, we are currently in first place in Maple 1, state cup this weekend, ranked in got soccer top 20, and we pay $500 for everything. Why are these other clubs charging so much?

    For 500 we get
    Commonwealth FC fee -$500
    all maple D1 fees,
    all state cup fees,
    All ref fees
    2 major tournaments like GPS ,
    all indoor training in winter,
    floodlighted outdoor training on top turf fields,
    2 licensed dedicated non parent coaches from Ireland and South America,
    soccer crazy driven kids
    Team improving dramatically each year
    NPL teams constantly after our players
    club still makes little money for overhead
    owners in it for the kids

    This is fact

    I wanted to keep it a secret but i cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious and taken to the cleaners by these big clubs
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    You forgot to add that (1) The Club Sucks and (2) Maple is an absolute joke of a league - first place in Maple is like 7 or 8 in a field of 8 in NEP....good luck....don't post anymore, you look like a fool.


    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    what costs should be if for the kids - not massive profits for club owners

    I have read a lot of the posts on the big clubs and it is scary. You guys are being ripped off every way possible. Even some fo the smaller clubs charging 2K +

    As my player is on Commonwealth FC U16 boys, we are currently in first place in Maple 1, state cup this weekend, ranked in got soccer top 20, and we pay $500 for everything. Why are these other clubs charging so much?

    For 500 we get
    Commonwealth FC fee -$500
    all maple D1 fees,
    all state cup fees,
    All ref fees
    2 major tournaments like GPS ,
    all indoor training in winter,
    floodlighted outdoor training on top turf fields,
    2 licensed dedicated non parent coaches from Ireland and South America,
    soccer crazy driven kids
    Team improving dramatically each year
    NPL teams constantly after our players
    club still makes little money for overhead
    owners in it for the kids

    This is fact

    I wanted to keep it a secret but i cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious and taken to the cleaners by these big clubs
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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You forgot to add that (1) The Club Sucks and (2) Maple is an absolute joke of a league - first place in Maple is like 7 or 8 in a field of 8 in NEP....good luck....don't post anymore, you look like a fool.
      did not take long for the sad jealous people to come in as expected but facts are facts and we have beaten both NPL and lots of NEP teams - also takes nothing away from the facts that all other clubs are fleecing people - the post is really focused on costs
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        #4
        So much concern over where I spend my dollar....
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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          what costs should be if for the kids - not massive profits for club owners

          I have read a lot of the posts on the big clubs and it is scary. You guys are being ripped off every way possible. Even some fo the smaller clubs charging 2K +

          As my player is on Commonwealth FC U16 boys, we are currently in first place in Maple 1, state cup this weekend, ranked in got soccer top 20, and we pay $500 for everything. Why are these other clubs charging so much?

          For 500 we get
          Commonwealth FC fee -$500
          all maple D1 fees,
          all state cup fees,
          All ref fees
          2 major tournaments like GPS ,
          all indoor training in winter,
          floodlighted outdoor training on top turf fields,
          2 licensed dedicated non parent coaches from Ireland and South America,
          soccer crazy driven kids
          Team improving dramatically each year
          NPL teams constantly after our players
          club still makes little money for overhead
          owners in it for the kids

          This is fact

          I wanted to keep it a secret but i cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious and taken to the cleaners by these big clubs
          As parent on North shore team, salute that your club can do that but this is not the norm
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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            As parent on North shore team, salute that your club can do that but this is not the norm
            SS Blazers similar costs even playing Reg 1 - it can def be done
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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              what costs should be if for the kids - not massive profits for club owners

              I have read a lot of the posts on the big clubs and it is scary. You guys are being ripped off every way possible. Even some fo the smaller clubs charging 2K +

              As my player is on Commonwealth FC U16 boys, we are currently in first place in Maple 1, state cup this weekend, ranked in got soccer top 20, and we pay $500 for everything. Why are these other clubs charging so much?

              For 500 we get
              Commonwealth FC fee -$500
              all maple D1 fees,
              all state cup fees,
              All ref fees
              2 major tournaments like GPS ,
              all indoor training in winter,
              floodlighted outdoor training on top turf fields,
              2 licensed dedicated non parent coaches from Ireland and South America,
              soccer crazy driven kids
              Team improving dramatically each year
              NPL teams constantly after our players
              club still makes little money for overhead
              owners in it for the kids

              This is fact

              I wanted to keep it a secret but i cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious and taken to the cleaners by these big clubs
              My kid plays also in Maple and fees are 1700 and we don't have our own field and recently lost to this team - makes me wonder what i am paying for
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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                SS Blazers similar costs even playing Reg 1 - it can def be done
                Small cmass club here with the same. Low cost, top teams compete with any NEP teams
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                  #9
                  You fail to recognize the importance of Status and families desire to feel that they have placed Mia and/or Landon on the right track.

                  You are trying to have a rational cost-based discussion and you are directing your anger at the clubs. The reality is that the majority of the market is not rational. It is emotional and purely aspirational. The clubs are merely meeting demand.
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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You fail to recognize the importance of Status and families desire to feel that they have placed Mia and/or Landon on the right track.

                    You are trying to have a rational cost-based discussion and you are directing your anger at the clubs. The reality is that the majority of the market is not rational. It is emotional and purely aspirational. The clubs are merely meeting demand.
                    Who is being the more foolish? The ones spending a relatively small amount for what they recognize as recreational soccer or the ones who believe that spending a small fortune for essentially the same level of soccer somehow delivers more prestige?
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You fail to recognize the importance of Status and families desire to feel that they have placed Mia and/or Landon on the right track.

                      You are trying to have a rational cost-based discussion and you are directing your anger at the clubs. The reality is that the majority of the market is not rational. It is emotional and purely aspirational. The clubs are merely meeting demand.
                      it is fun beating up on these clubs with their loud coaches and fancy uniforms and no clue about soccer but got the fancy badge on their uniform to show they are paying $3k+
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        what costs should be if for the kids - not massive profits for club owners

                        I have read a lot of the posts on the big clubs and it is scary. You guys are being ripped off every way possible. Even some fo the smaller clubs charging 2K +

                        As my player is on Commonwealth FC U16 boys, we are currently in first place in Maple 1, state cup this weekend, ranked in got soccer top 20, and we pay $500 for everything. Why are these other clubs charging so much?

                        For 500 we get
                        Commonwealth FC fee -$500
                        all maple D1 fees,
                        all state cup fees,
                        All ref fees
                        2 major tournaments like GPS ,
                        all indoor training in winter,
                        floodlighted outdoor training on top turf fields,
                        2 licensed dedicated non parent coaches from Ireland and South America,
                        soccer crazy driven kids
                        Team improving dramatically each year
                        NPL teams constantly after our players
                        club still makes little money for overhead
                        owners in it for the kids

                        This is fact

                        I wanted to keep it a secret but i cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious and taken to the cleaners by these big clubs
                        Didn't your best player leave for greener pastures? I wonder why?
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                          #13
                          For $1000, we get:

                          All NEP Fees
                          All tourney Fees (5 this year)
                          All ref fees
                          Indoor training in winter (2x/wk)
                          Outdoor training (3x/wk)
                          Permanent light fixtures on new turf
                          2 licensed coaches, don't care where they are from
                          Soccer crazy driven kids
                          Team improving dramatically every year
                          Players constantly being moved to NPL team
                          Club probably makes quite a bit of money
                          Owners in it for the kids, and to make a career
                          All within 5 miles from my house

                          This is fact

                          I wanted to keep it a secret but I cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious that the world is made up of all types. Those that preach how holier than though they are about how they spend their money, while apparently having enough money and free time to waste it pontificating on an internet message board strikes me as extremely hypocritical. Instead of worrying about my wallet, why don't you walk away from the keyboard and go volunteer somewhere....
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Who is being the more foolish? The ones spending a relatively small amount for what they recognize as recreational soccer or the ones who believe that spending a small fortune for essentially the same level of soccer somehow delivers more prestige?
                            We are agreeing. Prestige markets are full of foolish buyers and profitable providers.
                            You may not like it, but youth sports is a prestige market.

                            Parents happily pay a premium to give their child perceived advantage.
                            Be happy knowing that you are not being sucked in, and be proud that you are aware that the probability of any "ROI" on club soccer is lower than scratch tickets.

                            We are on the fools errand, you are not. Why are you not content with that?
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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              what costs should be if for the kids - not massive profits for club owners

                              I have read a lot of the posts on the big clubs and it is scary. You guys are being ripped off every way possible. Even some fo the smaller clubs charging 2K +

                              As my player is on Commonwealth FC U16 boys, we are currently in first place in Maple 1, state cup this weekend, ranked in got soccer top 20, and we pay $500 for everything. Why are these other clubs charging so much?

                              For 500 we get
                              Commonwealth FC fee -$500
                              all maple D1 fees,
                              all state cup fees,
                              All ref fees
                              2 major tournaments like GPS ,
                              all indoor training in winter,
                              floodlighted outdoor training on top turf fields,
                              2 licensed dedicated non parent coaches from Ireland and South America,
                              soccer crazy driven kids
                              Team improving dramatically each year
                              NPL teams constantly after our players
                              club still makes little money for overhead
                              owners in it for the kids

                              This is fact

                              I wanted to keep it a secret but i cannot stand by and watch people totally oblivious and taken to the cleaners by these big clubs
                              Are you guys playing in the Needham College Showcase this Memorial Day?
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