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    Boys 04/05 U11

    It seems to be very difficult to get a full grasp on this age group per region as most of the top teams are playing up and therefore don't have a lot of head to head results. Thoughts on Region winners and top teams?

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It seems to be very difficult to get a full grasp on this age group per region as most of the top teams are playing up and therefore don't have a lot of head to head results. Thoughts on Region winners and top teams?
    they are 10 years old. Believe me, the team and better players at U11 are not the same when they reach 13/14. Have fun and focus on good coaching and not who is winning at U11

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      they are 10 years old. Believe me, the team and better players at U11 are not the same when they reach 13/14. Have fun and focus on good coaching and not who is winning at U11
      Its funny coaching ,good teams ,good players go hand and hand ..... I think easy to say there are more bad coaches hence ,bad teams ,bad players then good coaches its laughable.
      The bottom line is bad coaching equals all of the above its hard to have fun with a bad coach is that not the truth.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Its funny coaching ,good teams ,good players go hand and hand ..... I think easy to say there are more bad coaches hence ,bad teams ,bad players then good coaches its laughable.
        The bottom line is bad coaching equals all of the above its hard to have fun with a bad coach is that not the truth.
        very true..find a good coach and don't worry about winning at U11

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          very true..find a good coach and don't worry about winning at U11
          Either way you want to spin it ( Good Team, Good Coach, Good Players) which teams possess these qualities? I don't think the thread is about "worrying" about wins and losses rather a discussion about where the top talent lies.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Either way you want to spin it ( Good Team, Good Coach, Good Players) which teams possess these qualities? I don't think the thread is about "worrying" about wins and losses rather a discussion about where the top talent lies.
            no it is about winning to the OP. I think a few people told him basically...don't worry about who is the best U11 team. who cares...they are 10/11

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Its funny coaching ,good teams ,good players go hand and hand ..... I think easy to say there are more bad coaches hence ,bad teams ,bad players then good coaches its laughable.
              The bottom line is bad coaching equals all of the above its hard to have fun with a bad coach is that not the truth.
              The issue is you have no idea going into a season with a new coach if he or she is a good coach until its almost to late..... Coaches should be rated per age group as well as background before tryouts so parents with values can pick a club or coach they feel that best fits there needs. Clubs try and hide any issue they had in the past of a coach for some reason as if it wont surface again the club only fails in the end not the coach.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                very true..find a good coach and don't worry about winning at U11
                This is such an old argument and really what is wrong with soccer in the US. Technically, if you have a good coach and the team is developing properly, learning the game, and growing as a unit then the "don't worry about winning at any age" mentality goes out the window because results are sure to follow. Winning is surely not everything and in the grand scheme of the .5% that make it to the highest level u11 results are a distant memory. But to pawn off that winning is meaningless is teaching the players that practice is meaningless, coaching is meaningless, and really nothing matters until you get to the "next level". Unfortunately, barely anyone makes it to the next level so why even bother to keep score at all? Winning is an attitude that needs to be correctly taught from a very early age. How to win with class, how to handle adversity, and how to lose with sportsmanship. All of that needs to be ingrained and developed just like skills on a field, which is why we are not very successful at the highest levels currently.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The issue is you have no idea going into a season with a new coach if he or she is a good coach until its almost to late..... Coaches should be rated per age group as well as background before tryouts so parents with values can pick a club or coach they feel that best fits there needs. Clubs try and hide any issue they had in the past of a coach for some reason as if it wont surface again the club only fails in the end not the coach.
                  It all falls back to this factor !

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This is such an old argument and really what is wrong with soccer in the US. Technically, if you have a good coach and the team is developing properly, learning the game, and growing as a unit then the "don't worry about winning at any age" mentality goes out the window because results are sure to follow. Winning is surely not everything and in the grand scheme of the .5% that make it to the highest level u11 results are a distant memory. But to pawn off that winning is meaningless is teaching the players that practice is meaningless, coaching is meaningless, and really nothing matters until you get to the "next level". Unfortunately, barely anyone makes it to the next level so why even bother to keep score at all? Winning is an attitude that needs to be correctly taught from a very early age. How to win with class, how to handle adversity, and how to lose with sportsmanship. All of that needs to be ingrained and developed just like skills on a field, which is why we are not very successful at the highest levels currently.
                    There is no guarantee, in any field, of success at the highest level. Your kid will likely not get into Caltech, but you nevertheless want he or she to have good math instruction, if math is something you care about. This is no different. The activity - soccer - is obviously something we care about otherwise we would not be spending weekends at all the games and we would not be on this site. So, given that we care, the quality of the teaching is very important, even if our kid doesn't go to "Caltech" (the soccer equivalent is La Masia) or even Georgia Tech. I think you get this.

                    As far as winning, a team that learns the right way should be winning a lot by u11, if the kids are talented. That doesn't mean they will beat every team that is physical, athletic and maybe plays more kickball. You may lose a few of those. But a team that is learning how to play well should be winning 2 of 3 - more or less - by u11. The two are not inconsistent at this age.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The issue is you have no idea going into a season with a new coach if he or she is a good coach until its almost to late..... Coaches should be rated per age group as well as background before tryouts so parents with values can pick a club or coach they feel that best fits there needs. Clubs try and hide any issue they had in the past of a coach for some reason as if it wont surface again the club only fails in the end not the coach.
                      No, that's not true. You need to be smart. Look up the coach's licenses for one. If you are at the same club as last year, you should know every youth coach's style and whether you think that works for your kid. How old is the coach? Does he/she have another team? Did he/she play? At what level? What are other parent's experiences?

                      If you're not asking these questions, you are not doing your job. Generally run from daddy coaches, although I can think of a few that are ok. If you don't have a soccer background or at least watch soccer on TV, you are at a serious disadvantage. Find someone on your club that knows soccer. Worst case scenario: follow them. It is not as difficult as you make it seem.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        No, that's not true. You need to be smart. Look up the coach's licenses for one. If you are at the same club as last year, you should know every youth coach's style and whether you think that works for your kid. How old is the coach? Does he/she have another team? Did he/she play? At what level? What are other parent's experiences?

                        If you're not asking these questions, you are not doing your job. Generally run from daddy coaches, although I can think of a few that are ok. If you don't have a soccer background or at least watch soccer on TV, you are at a serious disadvantage. Find someone on your club that knows soccer. Worst case scenario: follow them. It is not as difficult as you make it seem.
                        Your wrong you will never have the information on the next year on what coach will coach your team until after tryouts. Thus you cannot view a team play and look at the coach of your child on a team if you are not giving this information the season before .

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Your wrong you will never have the information on the next year on what coach will coach your team until after tryouts. Thus you cannot view a team play and look at the coach of your child on a team if you are not giving this information the season before .
                          Sorry, if a club will not tell me who will be the coach, I don't sign my kid up. As simple as that. The coach is everything until they are u14s or u15s. Find another club. There are lots of clubs out there.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Your wrong you will never have the information on the next year on what coach will coach your team until after tryouts. Thus you cannot view a team play and look at the coach of your child on a team if you are not giving this information the season before .
                            People commonly make the mistake of accepting mediocre coaching at XYZ soccer club because they think it's a good club and there will be some sort of club loyalty when the kid is older. This is a false assumption. You are being fed garbage to keep you paying. Under no circumstances should you accept mediocre coaching at u10-u12. That is the most critical age for kids. Find the top coach at that age in your area and hope he/she will take your kid. You may be surprised how far being your kid really is. You can always return to XYZ club when your kid is older. Guess what, if he's good at an older age, he will be picked. The kid who has stayed at XYZ club and accepted garbage coaching at u10-u13 will not be.

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                              #15
                              Davie United Blue will be hard to beat. They are physical and skilled. There coach is second to none in getting the most out of the players. He also coaches the U15 and they are a top team also. My kid does play at the club, but unfortunately, not for Ramiro. I wish he did.

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