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    Why do dual sport Spring HS athletes play club?

    I am a frustrated parent trying to understand the rationale for a dual sport athlete wanting to play a spring HS sport and club soccer. Player's team consists of several serious 'soccer only' athletes who want to play soccer in college (with realistic expectations) and a good amount of HS athletes playing lacrosse, running track or other. While these athletes are good players they miss many training sessions and several games, tournaments, etc. over the course of the short spring season, and look much worse at the end of the season than they do at the start of the season.

    The team manager is often forced to schedule participation at events, games and training sessions around the HS athlete schedule and when they DO participate they are often very tired and sore and/or injured and can't play. Neither results in good play. This brings down the level of play of the team in general.

    It is late in the game to be changing clubs for a more serious atmosphere but I am wondering for those parents who have kids who do this what the draw is to pay club fees and play in a league when your player cannot fully participate and/or risks injury by over training. Are these HS spring athletes trying to also play college soccer? What is the motivation for doing both? And for coaches, why don't you set expectations at the beginning of tryouts? Would clubs fold if coaches said players must attend all practices and games? OR, if they simply said do not try out for this team if you are playing a Spring HS sport.

    Completely understand and support the desire to play soccer for your high school. But WHY play club and risk the overtraining---not to mention letting your team down on numerous occasions because you can't be there, can't train, or are too tired to give 100%.

    #2
    It is strictly up to your coach and club to decide on whether this is acceptable. Expectations need to be laid out before season starts and tryouts and this should be published on their websites so that everyone knows what they are getting into.

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      #3
      Most likely the parents of the Spring sport HS athletes are more realistic than you and realize their kids aren't going to play soccer in college.

      Playing multiple sports is actually a good thing. Specializing in anything year round can do more damage than a multi-sport approach.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It is strictly up to your coach and club to decide on whether this is acceptable. Expectations need to be laid out before season starts and tryouts and this should be published on their websites so that everyone knows what they are getting into.
        Agree. Assuming this is not laid out by either the coach or the club -- is the motivation to let these players play purely financial? How many teams would fold if spring HS athletes would no longer be welcomed? What is the parental reason for allowing this and paying the fees when you know your child will be missing many events?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Most likely the parents of the Spring sport HS athletes are more realistic than you and realize their kids aren't going to play soccer in college.

          Playing multiple sports is actually a good thing. Specializing in anything year round can do more damage than a multi-sport approach.
          Do not disagree with you. My question is why play CLUB soccer in the spring? You can be a multi-sport athlete and play for your highschool all three seasons. Or you can be a club player and play hs fall soccer, a winter hs sport and then your club team only in the spring. How does doing two high demanding sports help your athlete in the spring? Does the athlete or parent feel any obligation at all to the spring club team?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Most likely the parents of the Spring sport HS athletes are more realistic than you and realize their kids aren't going to play soccer in college.

            Playing multiple sports is actually a good thing. Specializing in anything year round can do more damage than a multi-sport approach.
            But multiple sports in the same season can lead to overtraining and injury and it frequently does.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Do not disagree with you. My question is why play CLUB soccer in the spring? You can be a multi-sport athlete and play for your highschool all three seasons. Or you can be a club player and play hs fall soccer, a winter hs sport and then your club team only in the spring. How does doing two high demanding sports help your athlete in the spring? Does the athlete or parent feel any obligation at all to the spring club team?
              Your issue isn't with the child or the parents, it is with your club for allowing it. If they put a stop to it none of this would be an issue. Take it up with your coach.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I am a frustrated parent trying to understand the rationale for a dual sport athlete wanting to play a spring HS sport and club soccer. Player's team consists of several serious 'soccer only' athletes who want to play soccer in college (with realistic expectations) and a good amount of HS athletes playing lacrosse, running track or other. While these athletes are good players they miss many training sessions and several games, tournaments, etc. over the course of the short spring season, and look much worse at the end of the season than they do at the start of the season.

                The team manager is often forced to schedule participation at events, games and training sessions around the HS athlete schedule and when they DO participate they are often very tired and sore and/or injured and can't play. Neither results in good play. This brings down the level of play of the team in general.

                It is late in the game to be changing clubs for a more serious atmosphere but I am wondering for those parents who have kids who do this what the draw is to pay club fees and play in a league when your player cannot fully participate and/or risks injury by over training. Are these HS spring athletes trying to also play college soccer? What is the motivation for doing both? And for coaches, why don't you set expectations at the beginning of tryouts? Would clubs fold if coaches said players must attend all practices and games? OR, if they simply said do not try out for this team if you are playing a Spring HS sport.

                Completely understand and support the desire to play soccer for your high school. But WHY play club and risk the overtraining---not to mention letting your team down on numerous occasions because you can't be there, can't train, or are too tired to give 100%.
                Is this your first year at Galway?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Most likely the parents of the Spring sport HS athletes are more realistic than you and realize their kids aren't going to play soccer in college.

                  Playing multiple sports is actually a good thing. Specializing in anything year round can do more damage than a multi-sport approach.
                  This is exactly why messi did track and field, basketball and lacrosse. Thank god that it paid off.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Most likely the parents of the Spring sport HS athletes are more realistic than you and realize their kids aren't going to play soccer in college.

                    Playing multiple sports is actually a good thing. Specializing in anything year round can do more damage than a multi-sport approach.
                    It's not about being more realistic or not. It's about committing to too many things and being unfair to those other kids who have committed solely to playing soccer. Either you commit to your club team or you don't. There are all kinds of other venues for playing soccer if you want to do both.

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                      #11
                      problem is the coach. Take it up with him/her

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Is this your first year at Galway?
                        Every club allows this for financial reasons. not just Galway. if coaches took a stand on this half of their athletes would disappear and this includes 2nd teams from Stars and NEFC. So called "commitment" is a convenience based, selfish thing and players and parents who do this are not thinking about the team they are thinking about the glory their child receives from playing both sports, hedging their bets with college possibilities. Then when an injury happens, they are kicking themselves or refusing to take responsibility for it.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          problem is the coach. Take it up with him/her
                          What coach is going to go to his/her president and say I'm dismissing half of my team because they will not commit to soccer only in the spring. That would be a huge $$ loss.

                          Wanting to know why parents and players do it? What is the rationale for paying club fees and missing events and/or hurting the team.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            This is exactly why messi did track and field, basketball and lacrosse. Thank god that it paid off.
                            Yes, and there are thousands of Messi's in the world. Try a realistic answer.

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                              #15
                              This is actually a good question. On my daughters team there are 4+ good players out due to injuries sustained on days or weekends they had both track meets and/or lacrosse games and a club game. They are training 2 plus hours a day, 5 days a week with their HS team, then attending a late night club practice and either going back and forth to tournaments, meets, games for both sports all weekend.

                              Parents don't get money back from club and player missed at least half of both their HS season and the club season. Why do it? How does the player benefit? Why not play recreational soccer in the spring on the days you can make it?

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