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    That was painful...and now I REALLY appreciate my club!

    My son is a HS freshman, playing his first varsity game in a preseason match over in Central Florida. After a few years of competitive club ball, this ended up being really painful to watch. Nothing but long balls, blind clearances and reckless collisions. Never making the simple pass to build towards a goal.

    Makes me really see how well the clubs do in terms of teaching soccer the right way. That being said, I've never seen my son smile bigger than he did after the game. He had a lot of fun playing with his buddies in a lower pressure environment, so there are pros and cons. But boy was it ugly!

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    My son is a HS freshman, playing his first varsity game in a preseason match over in Central Florida. After a few years of competitive club ball, this ended up being really painful to watch. Nothing but long balls, blind clearances and reckless collisions. Never making the simple pass to build towards a goal.

    Makes me really see how well the clubs do in terms of teaching soccer the right way. That being said, I've never seen my son smile bigger than he did after the game. He had a lot of fun playing with his buddies in a lower pressure environment, so there are pros and cons. But boy was it ugly!
    Totally agree. It's very painful to watch

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      My son is a HS freshman, playing his first varsity game in a preseason match over in Central Florida. After a few years of competitive club ball, this ended up being really painful to watch. Nothing but long balls, blind clearances and reckless collisions. Never making the simple pass to build towards a goal.

      Makes me really see how well the clubs do in terms of teaching soccer the right way. That being said, I've never seen my son smile bigger than he did after the game. He had a lot of fun playing with his buddies in a lower pressure environment, so there are pros and cons. But boy was it ugly!
      And, they make you pay to watch! I agree most HS is average to bad, but there's a few teams out there loaded with good club players. Those will be the teams in the playoffs at the end.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Totally agree. It's very painful to watch
        Try going to a girl's HS game. I've been doing this for 6+ years now. It hurts. JV is unrecognizable as soccer.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Try going to a girl's HS game. I've been doing this for 6+ years now. It hurts. JV is unrecognizable as soccer.
          Sounds like my daughter will have shot at making the girls JV team then. Thanks for the encouragement.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            My son is a HS freshman, playing his first varsity game in a preseason match over in Central Florida. After a few years of competitive club ball, this ended up being really painful to watch. Nothing but long balls, blind clearances and reckless collisions. Never making the simple pass to build towards a goal.

            Makes me really see how well the clubs do in terms of teaching soccer the right way. That being said, I've never seen my son smile bigger than he did after the game. He had a lot of fun playing with his buddies in a lower pressure environment, so there are pros and cons. But boy was it ugly!
            ? All the starters at our high school ARE club players too.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              ? All the starters at our high school ARE club players too.
              I gotta comment. So are the starters at my kid's school. That doesn't matter. The local clubs are incredibly bad. So it means nothing. 3 players are from a top level club. So we struggle.

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                #8
                At the HS my kid attends, the HS coach players that play a position in club but in HS they play a different position. Fullback at club, forward in HS....Forward at club, Fullback in HS.

                This produces bad soccer. Its just amusing seeing these HS coaches put players in positions they are not comfortable with.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  At the HS my kid attends, the HS coach players that play a position in club but in HS they play a different position. Fullback at club, forward in HS....Forward at club, Fullback in HS.

                  This produces bad soccer. Its just amusing seeing these HS coaches put players in positions they are not comfortable with.
                  our club has a remedy for this. you tell them what position you usually play in HS, and they train you for another position.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Try going to a girl's HS game. I've been doing this for 6+ years now. It hurts. JV is unrecognizable as soccer.
                    cannot disagree with this. HS JV is just sad. HS Varsity can be good; it depends on the teams playing. At least 50% of the games are not challenging as far as real soccer skill goes, but the girls do learn other skills: to leap higher jumping over players tying their shoes, learn alternate hair styles to lesson the hair pulling, learn just how many times you can roll up the band of your skort so it is invisible under the shirt and the crowd thinks you're wearing nothing; and the language skills! you'd have to walk through the Bengal's locker room at half time to hear some of that stuff! so much more in life than soccer!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      ? All the starters at our high school ARE club players too.
                      Doesn't matter as the range of ages, size and skill level are all over the place. Combine that with a kick-it-ahead-at-all-cost mentality makes for really bad soccer. No wonder NO recruiting takes place at HS these days.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        My son is a HS freshman, playing his first varsity game in a preseason match over in Central Florida. After a few years of competitive club ball, this ended up being really painful to watch. Nothing but long balls, blind clearances and reckless collisions. Never making the simple pass to build towards a goal.

                        Makes me really see how well the clubs do in terms of teaching soccer the right way. That being said, I've never seen my son smile bigger than he did after the game. He had a lot of fun playing with his buddies in a lower pressure environment, so there are pros and cons. But boy was it ugly!
                        I think the fact that your son is a freshman and plays varsity is a statement in itself; poor talent pool. Only on a Tuesday blue moon would our coach take a freshman to play varsity (National player and thats it)! There have been top club players that don't make varsity until becoming a Junior. Our HS coach is also a club coach-not a science teacher….that can make a difference. The players all play at different clubs, but are friends!

                        Love HS soccer because it is about the win, but more importantly, they win for each other, and not just themselves!

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                          #13
                          The following has been my experience.

                          HS Coach: "If you're big, athletic and aggressive then you will be a starter, with or without any technical or tactical soccer skills."

                          Envious of those few of you with knowledgeable HS coaches.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I think the fact that your son is a freshman and plays varsity is a statement in itself; poor talent pool. Only on a Tuesday blue moon would our coach take a freshman to play varsity (National player and thats it)! There have been top club players that don't make varsity until becoming a Junior. Our HS coach is also a club coach-not a science teacher….that can make a difference. The players all play at different clubs, but are friends!

                            Love HS soccer because it is about the win, but more importantly, they win for each other, and not just themselves!
                            Every coach is different. Ours is a former college coach. He doesn't tell a talented young kid he can't play varsity because he's a freshman. He treats all kids the same no matter what class they're in. He's had a freshman starter the last 2 years. He also brings kids up from JV for a few games so they can see the speed of play. And before you hate, we have lots of club kids, almost the entire roster. We went deep last year, but came up a couple games short. We lost 5 senior starters, but have many kids this year with lots of HS and club experience coming into the line-up, plus some from JV.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I think the fact that your son is a freshman and plays varsity is a statement in itself; poor talent pool. Only on a Tuesday blue moon would our coach take a freshman to play varsity (National player and thats it)! There have been top club players that don't make varsity until becoming a Junior. Our HS coach is also a club coach-not a science teacher….that can make a difference. The players all play at different clubs, but are friends!

                              Love HS soccer because it is about the win, but more importantly, they win for each other, and not just themselves!
                              Before you make the comment, how good is the freshman you're saying he shouldn't take on varsity?

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