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    How much are you paying for tournaments?

    Is your club fair or are they ripping you off?
    Feel free to share your input.

    #2
    Tournaments are there to make money for the club. Get over it. Think Needham is doing there's out of the kindness of their hearts?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Is your club fair or are they ripping you off?
      Feel free to share your input.
      Our club is pretty fair ... Includes 3 tournaments as part our fees, and 2 are extra.

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        #4
        5 tournaments are included. Go to one local extra and pay out of slush fund. Our coach gives us the receipts for the hotel, gas and tolls are divided equally between all teams involved if travel outside further than CT. CT only hotel is covered. Our coach coach’s two teams and they go to tournaments together. PDA cost $125 a night for two nights, $113 for gas and I think like $32 for tolls divided by 2. Both teams paid 197.50 out of the slush fund, about $11.62 per player. Our club uses slush funds for all travel expenses.

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          #5
          My daughter’s club coach adds a fee on top the tournament fee that is divided up by each player. I assume the fee covers travel and lodging expenses depending on if a hotel stay is required. There is no disclosure of expenses. She also coaches 4 teams and adds this extra fee for everyone. If you do the math you can see she is quadruple dipping and making a large profit. I think it is excessive and she is taking advantage of the families. From conversations with other parents I am not alone. Not to mention she usually books all of her teams in the same hotel accommodations. I assume most hotels that book large blocks of rooms to one party similar to a wedding or any event comp a certain number of rooms. Whether they do or not I am also certain it is likely this savings is not being passed on to the families. But that being said she is a great coach and my daughter is happy with her team. I would call her on it but I don't want my kid to pay the price. Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they can turn the other way on this. I do wish she was more honest and just said I am running a business and part of that is making money. Instead she denies profiting off tournaments which is insulting to everyone's intelligence. She could use a lesson in business ethics for a person that throws around the word integrity so much.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            My daughter’s club coach adds a fee on top the tournament fee that is divided up by each player. I assume the fee covers travel and lodging expenses depending on if a hotel stay is required. There is no disclosure of expenses. She also coaches 4 teams and adds this extra fee for everyone. If you do the math you can see she is quadruple dipping and making a large profit. I think it is excessive and she is taking advantage of the families. From conversations with other parents I am not alone. Not to mention she usually books all of her teams in the same hotel accommodations. I assume most hotels that book large blocks of rooms to one party similar to a wedding or any event comp a certain number of rooms. Whether they do or not I am also certain it is likely this savings is not being passed on to the families. But that being said she is a great coach and my daughter is happy with her team. I would call her on it but I don't want my kid to pay the price. Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they can turn the other way on this. I do wish she was more honest and just said I am running a business and part of that is making money. Instead she denies profiting off tournaments which is insulting to everyone's intelligence. She could use a lesson in business ethics for a person that throws around the word integrity so much.
            Let me guess LL at SSS?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              My daughter’s club coach adds a fee on top the tournament fee that is divided up by each player. I assume the fee covers travel and lodging expenses depending on if a hotel stay is required. There is no disclosure of expenses. She also coaches 4 teams and adds this extra fee for everyone. If you do the math you can see she is quadruple dipping and making a large profit. I think it is excessive and she is taking advantage of the families. From conversations with other parents I am not alone. Not to mention she usually books all of her teams in the same hotel accommodations. I assume most hotels that book large blocks of rooms to one party similar to a wedding or any event comp a certain number of rooms. Whether they do or not I am also certain it is likely this savings is not being passed on to the families. But that being said she is a great coach and my daughter is happy with her team. I would call her on it but I don't want my kid to pay the price. Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they can turn the other way on this. I do wish she was more honest and just said I am running a business and part of that is making money. Instead she denies profiting off tournaments which is insulting to everyone's intelligence. She could use a lesson in business ethics for a person that throws around the word integrity so much.
              Thanks BTDT. Who did you get this info from, and how long have you been waiting to share it???

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                My daughter’s club coach adds a fee on top the tournament fee that is divided up by each player. I assume the fee covers travel and lodging expenses depending on if a hotel stay is required. There is no disclosure of expenses. She also coaches 4 teams and adds this extra fee for everyone. If you do the math you can see she is quadruple dipping and making a large profit. I think it is excessive and she is taking advantage of the families. From conversations with other parents I am not alone. Not to mention she usually books all of her teams in the same hotel accommodations. I assume most hotels that book large blocks of rooms to one party similar to a wedding or any event comp a certain number of rooms. Whether they do or not I am also certain it is likely this savings is not being passed on to the families. But that being said she is a great coach and my daughter is happy with her team. I would call her on it but I don't want my kid to pay the price. Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they can turn the other way on this. I do wish she was more honest and just said I am running a business and part of that is making money. Instead she denies profiting off tournaments which is insulting to everyone's intelligence. She could use a lesson in business ethics for a person that throws around the word integrity so much.
                Most tournaments require you to book through a travel agency. While they may be comping rooms, those comps are going to host club and certainly not being passed onto any visiting clubs. When we book our rooms you would not know the coach from any of the players, it is simply another name booked to a room.

                Are you saying that the coach is handling the kitty? While I am the team manager, I have someone else handle all of the money to avoid any potential conflicts or suspicion. We keep very detailed records on the kitty to make sure we do not run out and if there is a balance at the end of season, we will either roll it over or spend it on a team dinner or bonding event at the final trip of the year. I can say that you would be surprised at how the expenses add up.

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                  #9
                  NEFC overcharges for tournaments

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    My daughter’s club coach adds a fee on top the tournament fee that is divided up by each player. I assume the fee covers travel and lodging expenses depending on if a hotel stay is required. There is no disclosure of expenses. She also coaches 4 teams and adds this extra fee for everyone. If you do the math you can see she is quadruple dipping and making a large profit. I think it is excessive and she is taking advantage of the families. From conversations with other parents I am not alone. Not to mention she usually books all of her teams in the same hotel accommodations. I assume most hotels that book large blocks of rooms to one party similar to a wedding or any event comp a certain number of rooms. Whether they do or not I am also certain it is likely this savings is not being passed on to the families. But that being said she is a great coach and my daughter is happy with her team. I would call her on it but I don't want my kid to pay the price. Everyone needs to decide for themselves if they can turn the other way on this. I do wish she was more honest and just said I am running a business and part of that is making money. Instead she denies profiting off tournaments which is insulting to everyone's intelligence. She could use a lesson in business ethics for a person that throws around the word integrity so much.
                    The coaces expenses should be split between the teams that he/she coaches that are attending the same tournament - if every team is paying the same amount that is WRONG!

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                      #11
                      Our "B" and "C" teams pay for much of our extra cost. We are fortunate that are son is on an elite team so the tournaments that are added to our tuition is spot on.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The coaces expenses should be split between the teams that he/she coaches that are attending the same tournament - if every team is paying the same amount that is WRONG!
                        If your team doesn't have a separate team fund dedicated to your specific team then your club is splitting all of the travel for all of the coaches in the club and all of the tournament entrance fees for all of the teams in club amongst all of the players in the club. If your team travels quite a bit then this probably works out in your favor but if it doesn't then you are paying for expenses others are incurring.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If your team doesn't have a separate team fund dedicated to your specific team then your club is splitting all of the travel for all of the coaches in the club and all of the tournament entrance fees for all of the teams in club amongst all of the players in the club. If your team travels quite a bit then this probably works out in your favor but if it doesn't then you are paying for expenses others are incurring.
                          The yearly tuition includes 3 or 4 local tournaments. If the team does any additional tournaments the fee is split evenly among the players families. If the coach has two teams going to the same tournament then his/her fees should be split between the two teams.

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                            #14
                            I mean expenses - hotel room, food & gas

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                              #15
                              It is your money. The parents should call her out. That goes for any coach that does not produce receipts for their travel expenses. All expenses should be split between all the teams that travel also. If she is unethical in one area she must be in others.

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