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    Maybe someone with knowledge in this area can answer this question….

    I was at a college game today and the referee called a handling foul against the defense. The foul occurred approx. 3-5 yards inside the box. Rather than issue a PK, the referee moved the ball to outside the box for a direct free kick. I know that college games differ slightly from HS and youth games with regards to subs, and the way they are administered, but a foul is still a foul. Was he within his right to do so? Or did I just witness a case of the cowardly referee?

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Maybe someone with knowledge in this area can answer this question….

    I was at a college game today and the referee called a handling foul against the defense. The foul occurred approx. 3-5 yards inside the box. Rather than issue a PK, the referee moved the ball to outside the box for a direct free kick. I know that college games differ slightly from HS and youth games with regards to subs, and the way they are administered, but a foul is still a foul. Was he within his right to do so? Or did I just witness a case of the cowardly referee?
    Coward.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Maybe someone with knowledge in this area can answer this question….

      I was at a college game today and the referee called a handling foul against the defense. The foul occurred approx. 3-5 yards inside the box. Rather than issue a PK, the referee moved the ball to outside the box for a direct free kick. I know that college games differ slightly from HS and youth games with regards to subs, and the way they are administered, but a foul is still a foul. Was he within his right to do so? Or did I just witness a case of the cowardly referee?
      Coward. The rules do not differ in that regard. BTW, HS rules differ more from FIFA rules than college rules do.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Coward. The rules do not differ in that regard. BTW, HS rules differ more from FIFA rules than college rules do.
        In HS, subbing on a corner, timeouts and change of possession on a throw-in never entering the field of play I could do without. Am I missing any other quirks?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Maybe someone with knowledge in this area can answer this question….

          I was at a college game today and the referee called a handling foul against the defense. The foul occurred approx. 3-5 yards inside the box. Rather than issue a PK, the referee moved the ball to outside the box for a direct free kick. I know that college games differ slightly from HS and youth games with regards to subs, and the way they are administered, but a foul is still a foul. Was he within his right to do so? Or did I just witness a case of the cowardly referee?
          As far as I am aware, either you or the referee were wrong about the location of the foul. the referee was wrong about the application of the laws (unlikely at that level) or, most likely, there was a foul that occurred outside of the box, the referee played advantage that never materialized at which point he whistled the foul and brought the ball back to the spot of that foul.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            In HS, subbing on a corner, timeouts and change of possession on a throw-in never entering the field of play I could do without. Am I missing any other quirks?
            No flexibility on end of half or end of game. I have seen games whistled over on a breakaway.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              As far as I am aware, either you or the referee were wrong about the location of the foul. the referee was wrong about the application of the laws (unlikely at that level) or, most likely, there was a foul that occurred outside of the box, the referee played advantage that never materialized at which point he whistled the foul and brought the ball back to the spot of that foul.
              Wouldn't advantage be waived and handling enforced in the box for a PK? Why penalize the fouled team?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                No flexibility on end of half or end of game. I have seen games whistled over on a breakaway.
                That can happen at any level. I've seen World Cup games ended as a corner kick is put into play.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Wouldn't advantage be waived and handling enforced in the box for a PK? Why penalize the fouled team?
                  If the official determined that advantage didn't materialize and had decided to blow his whistle for the foul outside the box before the defender handled the ball then the correct action would be to award the DFK outside the box.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If the official determined that advantage didn't materialize and had decided to blow his whistle for the foul outside the box before the defender handled the ball then the correct action would be to award the DFK outside the box.
                    That is not playing advantage.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      That is not playing advantage.
                      huh?

                      here's the sequence...

                      ref observes foul occurring outside the box
                      waits 2-3 seconds to see how play develops
                      ball gets away from the offensive player
                      ref decides to blow whistle
                      ball hits defenders hand in the box
                      ref blows whistle
                      correct ruling - DFK at spot of original foul

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        huh?

                        here's the sequence...

                        ref observes foul occurring outside the box
                        waits 2-3 seconds to see how play develops
                        ball gets away from the offensive player
                        ref decides to blow whistle
                        ball hits defenders hand in the box
                        ref blows whistle
                        correct ruling - DFK at spot of original foul
                        Wrong. If handling occurs prior to whistle, advantage is still on. PK should be call.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Wrong. If handling occurs prior to whistle, advantage is still on. PK should be call.
                          If a referee is truly able to distinguish clearly in his mind that

                          ref decides to blow whistle
                          ball hits defenders hand in the box
                          ref blows whistle

                          occurred and not...

                          ref decides to blow whistle
                          ref blows whistle
                          ball hits defenders hand in the box

                          but I don't know too many people who have that degree of awareness.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If a referee is truly able to distinguish clearly in his mind that

                            ref decides to blow whistle
                            ball hits defenders hand in the box
                            ref blows whistle

                            occurred and not...

                            ref decides to blow whistle
                            ref blows whistle
                            ball hits defenders hand in the box

                            but I don't know too many people who have that degree of awareness.
                            Referees are not supposed to pre-determine calls. They are supposed to call what actually happens on the field.

                            If the handling happened prior to the whistle it handling. PK. No question.

                            If the OP's account is accurate, it shoulid have been a PK. There is no discretion there. If the ref decided that the play was over prior to the handling, without a whistle, he blew the call.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Referees are not supposed to pre-determine calls. They are supposed to call what actually happens on the field.

                              If the handling happened prior to the whistle it handling. PK. No question.

                              If the OP's account is accurate, it shoulid have been a PK. There is no discretion there. If the ref decided that the play was over prior to the handling, without a whistle, he blew the call.
                              Ok there is no excuse or another half of this account - The ref was wrong. He should be dragged to the center of the town and flogged. My goodness the player who could of taken the PK could of been offered a spot on the US National Team or the OLYMPICS.

                              Go do some laps.

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