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    College D1: Not all that its cracked up to be

    Since some bright person decided to start a thread for the pure purposes of denigrating D3, it makes sense to add a place to do the same for D1. Watching some D1 games on TV, its easy to see that many programs/teams lack the ability to actually play the game. Too many missed passes, passes to no teh invisible player, the clear out of the back field where the ball skies in the air spinning wildly backwards. You know what Im talking about.

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    Do you regret your job? If so why are you doing it? If you love your job, what is the issue?

    Playing soccer at the D1 level is nothing but a job. It is a very demanding job at that. If you don't love that job you should not do it because it WILL become painful just like any other job you don't like doing.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Since some bright person decided to start a thread for the pure purposes of denigrating D3, it makes sense to add a place to do the same for D1. Watching some D1 games on TV, its easy to see that many programs/teams lack the ability to actually play the game. Too many missed passes, passes to no teh invisible player, the clear out of the back field where the ball skies in the air spinning wildly backwards. You know what Im talking about.
      The D3 thread was started for the exact opposite reason, to promote D3....It kinda blew up huh?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The D3 thread was started for the exact opposite reason, to promote D3....It kinda blew up huh?
        That a fact? So that is what this title "College D3: Just need some town soccer and you'll be fine" meant. Got it!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          That a fact? So that is what this title "College D3: Just need some town soccer and you'll be fine" meant. Got it!
          It is pretty clear that you didn't read the initial post in that thread. The title was meant to be sarcastic. Nice try.

          Go re-read and try again.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It is pretty clear that you didn't read the initial post in that thread. The title was meant to be sarcastic. Nice try.

            Go re-read and try again.
            The second post on the D3 thread in response to a pretty unobjectionable initial post:

            "D3 athletes are just wasting their time. The only reason most do it now is to appease mommy and daddy who spent thousands supporting their middle school sports dreams"

            This theme and plenty of elaborations on it filled the thread over the succeeding week. Some people tried to use it to promote their own kid, denigrate others, promote one club (or explain why another club's deficiencies don't exist or don't matter). It became a vessel for a lot of people's biases and grievances but some people just continued to rationally lay out facts of what trade-offs await a kid with the chops to play high-level soccer and operate in a high-level academic environment.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Since some bright person decided to start a thread for the pure purposes of denigrating D3, it makes sense to add a place to do the same for D1. Watching some D1 games on TV, its easy to see that many programs/teams lack the ability to actually play the game. Too many missed passes, passes to no teh invisible player, the clear out of the back field where the ball skies in the air spinning wildly backwards. You know what Im talking about.
              Because you felt someone slighted D3 you needed to do it to the D1 program, how old are you?

              That is the most immature reason to start a thread I have heard in a long time.

              -- Pathfinder

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Because you felt someone slighted D3 you needed to do it to the D1 program, how old are you?

                That is the most immature reason to start a thread I have heard in a long time.

                -- Pathfinder
                I'm not the starter of the thread but I think it was meant as a tongue-in-cheek poke at those who make such immature, broad and disrespectful statements in the other context. I chuckled when I saw it and was kind of surprised it had even garnered a reply post.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The second post on the D3 thread in response to a pretty unobjectionable initial post:

                  "D3 athletes are just wasting their time. The only reason most do it now is to appease mommy and daddy who spent thousands supporting their middle school sports dreams"

                  This theme and plenty of elaborations on it filled the thread over the succeeding week. Some people tried to use it to promote their own kid, denigrate others, promote one club (or explain why another club's deficiencies don't exist or don't matter). It became a vessel for a lot of people's biases and grievances but some people just continued to rationally lay out facts of what trade-offs await a kid with the chops to play high-level soccer and operate in a high-level academic environment.
                  What is the second post in this thread saying? That it is a job and unless you really love the job don't do it because it is not worth doing. That is in reference to the semi-full time job that some of the players at the D1 level are literally getting paid to do. How is that any different a sentiment when it comes to D3? The huge difference is at the D3 level the players are literally giving it away for free so in many respects they are absolutely wasting their time because it is not paying their tuition bills or presumably leading them towards their chosen career and we all know at this point that everyone at that level is so focused on their education and getting into grad school. How can working almost full time for free be anything but a waste of time under those circumstances?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The second post on the D3 thread in response to a pretty unobjectionable initial post:

                    "D3 athletes are just wasting their time. The only reason most do it now is to appease mommy and daddy who spent thousands supporting their middle school sports dreams"

                    This theme and plenty of elaborations on it filled the thread over the succeeding week. Some people tried to use it to promote their own kid, denigrate others, promote one club (or explain why another club's deficiencies don't exist or don't matter). It became a vessel for a lot of people's biases and grievances but some people just continued to rationally lay out facts of what trade-offs await a kid with the chops to play high-level soccer and operate in a high-level academic environment.
                    The SECOND post was in response to the INITIAL post. The INITIAL post was pro D3.

                    The person who started that thread was clearly pro D3. The INITIAL post in this thread was a temper tantrum to bash D1.

                    Just so we are all clear...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The D3 thread was started for the exact opposite reason, to promote D3....It kinda blew up huh?
                      Blew up? BTNT tried like heck to shut that thread down by repeatedly saying it was all "ridiculous," "rubbish," "stupid," etc, etc. And it's at 60+ pages and still kicking, and it contains within it all of the stuff that parents actually do really care about.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        What is the second post in this thread saying? That it is a job and unless you really love the job don't do it because it is not worth doing. That is in reference to the semi-full time job that some of the players at the D1 level are literally getting paid to do. How is that any different a sentiment when it comes to D3? The huge difference is at the D3 level the players are literally giving it away for free so in many respects they are absolutely wasting their time because it is not paying their tuition bills or presumably leading them towards their chosen career and we all know at this point that everyone at that level is so focused on their education and getting into grad school. How can working almost full time for free be anything but a waste of time under those circumstances?
                        Love this, BTNT! Now all of our kids are like hookers...only the D1 hookers are smart enough to make sure they get paid. The D3 kids are just pure whores.

                        And don't hold back on telling us what you really think about D3. We get it. Even if there are qualitative differences that means nothing. EVERY qualitative level is a waste of time because playing at D3 period is a waste of time. Yiou could not care less whether there is some better brand of D3 than you are familiar with that is populated by higher level club players, because, even if you conceded the truth of that, they still would be idiots for wasting their time playing. How exactly that relates to dropping down multiple levels on the academics is unclear.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What is the second post in this thread saying? That it is a job and unless you really love the job don't do it because it is not worth doing. That is in reference to the semi-full time job that some of the players at the D1 level are literally getting paid to do. How is that any different a sentiment when it comes to D3? The huge difference is at the D3 level the players are literally giving it away for free so in many respects they are absolutely wasting their time because it is not paying their tuition bills or presumably leading them towards their chosen career and we all know at this point that everyone at that level is so focused on their education and getting into grad school. How can working almost full time for free be anything but a waste of time under those circumstances?
                          All athletic scholarships should be revoked. School should be for education only. Why should better athletes get an unfair tuition break. The fallacy of graduating these athletes has been proven again and again. ALL athletic revenue should be reverting back to the schools to be used to lower the cost for all, no other use. It is a completely broken system.
                          It should be like our beloved Mass club system: if you want to play at a higher level, you should have to pay more, not have someone else pay for it. Same as academics.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Blew up? BTNT tried like heck to shut that thread down by repeatedly saying it was all "ridiculous," "rubbish," "stupid," etc, etc. And it's at 60+ pages and still kicking, and it contains within it all of the stuff that parents actually do really care about.
                            Was dumb. The idea that a family would pay to do club soccer so they could pay a lot more money come college time to play more soccer is stupid.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Because you felt someone slighted D3 you needed to do it to the D1 program, how old are you?

                              That is the most immature reason to start a thread I have heard in a long time.

                              -- Pathfinder
                              Pathfinder, I feel for you. This has got to be an excruciating period for you on TS. You hate P and desperately want to come to BTNT's rescue, but you are saddled with knowing on most of these college issues you are much more in the P camp, as is almost everyone (and probably a little dismayed at his nuclear approach to D3 soccer as a whole). Quite a conundrum. And no, I did not start this thread. I started the other one.

                              BTW, in regard to your hatred, I've forgotten to tell you how great I thought one line of yours was a ways back....the one where you said you wouldn't call 9-1-1 for me even if you saw me on the side of the road bleeding out (or something to that effect). In all seriousness, that was funny and I appreciated the admission of raw hatred combined with humor. Well played that time, my friend.

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