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    What would you say to this?

    Parents-kids are not showing up to practice. The club is stressing that next year's team is going to be the Elite-best of the best. the team mgr does not communicate that well or even show up to practice. The same 8-9 kids do show up each time their is practice. How would you ( in a nice way or not ) tell the other "group" of parents what time of the day it is?
    Or do you even say anything with tryouts approaching?

    I would say most parents 90-95% that put their kids in travel soccer understand the following. It costs alot of money, no playing time is guaranteed, you travel alot. You give up your holidays. Am I wrong?

    How would you get the other parents on board?

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    Age group?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Age group?
      u14 Boys

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        #4
        It's a commitment and the team suffers if people don't take it seriously

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          #5
          I am in this same situation with a girls team. I will be actively searching for another team for next year. The writing is on the wall. Does not sound like a team that has a chance to stick together and improve. I will tell you this is happening at a smaller club. small club = less pressure. Big club = more pressure; from tryouts and playing time from player's side and higher expectations from parents/club on coach's side.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            What would you say to this?
            Are you training for a specific purpose, like an upcoming tournament before tryouts, are are you just keeping the kids together to improve their skills in anticipation of next season? If you need to motivate attendance, then give the kids something fun to shoot for, like another tournaent in May or Memorial Day.

            Also, frankly this is the season you will lose players. My son's team never stopped training after U-14 tryouts. They did a summer league, then a winter league, then another coach took the team and trained them for two spring tournaments, then try-outs for the U-15s, then training all summer before games started in August. Optional training during high school season, then mandatory training over holidays for a tournament, back to high school, then back to club for training for state cup and eventually another tournament in May when we were knocked out of state cup. What we ended up with was several kids burned out and leaving by the conclusion of the U-15 season.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              What would you say to this?

              Parents-kids are not showing up to practice. The club is stressing that next year's team is going to be the Elite-best of the best. the team mgr does not communicate that well or even show up to practice. The same 8-9 kids do show up each time their is practice. How would you ( in a nice way or not ) tell the other "group" of parents what time of the day it is?
              Or do you even say anything with tryouts approaching?

              I would say most parents 90-95% that put their kids in travel soccer understand the following. It costs alot of money, no playing time is guaranteed, you travel alot. You give up your holidays. Am I wrong?

              How would you get the other parents on board?
              Same thing I tell every parent of a dedicated kid: think and act like a free agent. Leave all the "he/she wants to play with friends" stuff behind. If your athlete is serious don't let him/her be surrounded with unserious people.

              You'll be surprised how many others follow your lead.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Same thing I tell every parent of a dedicated kid: think and act like a free agent. Leave all the "he/she wants to play with friends" stuff behind. If your athlete is serious don't let him/her be surrounded with unserious people.

                You'll be surprised how many others follow your lead.
                That is exactly what we are doing this upcoming season, but I can guarentee no one will follow our lead ala the reason we are leaving in the first place. You'd be amaze how the "unserious" can affect the serious when they outnumber them.

                I told my kid, you want to play with your "unserious" friends and kick it around, we're doing rec at $100 a season. I've seen too many kids monkey around with their parents paying nearly two thousand a season plus; it's a joke.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That is exactly what we are doing this upcoming season, but I can guarentee no one will follow our lead ala the reason we are leaving in the first place. You'd be amaze how the "unserious" can affect the serious when they outnumber them.

                  I told my kid, you want to play with your "unserious" friends and kick it around, we're doing rec at $100 a season. I've seen too many kids monkey around with their parents paying nearly two thousand a season plus; it's a joke.
                  A few years ago, my daughter's team had an off-season meeting called by a couple of parents to discuss "where the team should play" the following year. We were right at the age when the kids need to decide whether to be serious about the sport or not. it was obvious that these parents wanted to travel in a pack- but we knew at least half those kids needed to play rec.

                  We went our own way, found a club that was working hard on player development. 4-5 others decided to follow us. the others lost interest after a couple more years playing recreational. Those that were serious developed well and trained hard. 3 of them play college ball now.

                  If you surround yourself with people who don't share your vision, you won't succeed.

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                    #10
                    Find a team where the parents are serious, not just drop off little Mia and Johnny. If you find a team where the parents are active you will find serious players, serious players will put in an effort OFF the field.

                    I'd rather play with average players who work at it everyday than the more naturally gifted players who do not lift a finger for their own good off the field.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Find a team where the parents are serious, not just drop off little Mia and Johnny. If you find a team where the parents are active you will find serious players, serious players will put in an effort OFF the field.

                      I'd rather play with average players who work at it everyday than the more naturally gifted players who do not lift a finger for their own good off the field.
                      I'm not sure I understand... the parents pay for the soccer; they make sure their kid gets to all practices and games, and the parents show up at game time to support their kid. What more do you need?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I'm not sure I understand... the parents pay for the soccer; they make sure their kid gets to all practices and games, and the parents show up at game time to support their kid. What more do you need?
                        I speak about parents wanting to play on the competitive level with a Rec mentality and effort. Rec has a great purpose but many parents refuse to acknowledge that it's the better fit for them and their child. Their child needs to "look" the best and not actually work to be the best. That work takes time, money and continuous effort by both player and parent of which your fair share do not have and or are willing to commit to.

                        Competitive is for kids and parents who genuinely like the sport, know the sport and know how to get the best out of their child wanting to develop every day. When kids see their parents disinterested it catches up, it always does.

                        There is nothing wrong with what you said, for rec. Competitive soccer is and should be a different animal altogether. I've seen time and time again Parents using soccer as an ****** for their child for "exercise" and "make friends", again that's fine, for rec. Getting exercise and making friends can happen at the competitive level but it can't be the priority.

                        There are a fair amount of teams out there with potential but do not develop because of their "I want competitive for the price of rec attitude and effort", figuratively speaking of course.

                        There is a huge divide between recreational and competitive soccer, it shouldn't be confusing; but like much in life we want the best for our kids regardless and want them to "look" the part more than we want them to "work" for the part.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If you surround yourself with people who don't share your vision, you won't succeed.
                          Amen brother, or sister.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I speak about parents wanting to play on the competitive level with a Rec mentality and effort. Rec has a great purpose but many parents refuse to acknowledge that it's the better fit for them and their child. Their child needs to "look" the best and not actually work to be the best. That work takes time, money and continuous effort by both player and parent of which your fair share do not have and or are willing to commit to.

                            Competitive is for kids and parents who genuinely like the sport, know the sport and know how to get the best out of their child wanting to develop every day. When kids see their parents disinterested it catches up, it always does.

                            There is nothing wrong with what you said, for rec. Competitive soccer is and should be a different animal altogether. I've seen time and time again Parents using soccer as an ****** for their child for "exercise" and "make friends", again that's fine, for rec. Getting exercise and making friends can happen at the competitive level but it can't be the priority.

                            There are a fair amount of teams out there with potential but do not develop because of their "I want competitive for the price of rec attitude and effort", figuratively speaking of course.

                            There is a huge divide between recreational and competitive soccer, it shouldn't be confusing; but like much in life we want the best for our kids regardless and want them to "look" the part more than we want them to "work" for the part.
                            Good points; parents often want to be able to say "my kid plays premier", but they're not willing to live up to (or have the kids live up to) the work it takes to play premier soccer. As a result, a lot of so-called "elite" soccer is nowhere near that level.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I speak about parents wanting to play on the competitive level with a Rec mentality and effort. Rec has a great purpose but many parents refuse to acknowledge that it's the better fit for them and their child. Their child needs to "look" the best and not actually work to be the best. That work takes time, money and continuous effort by both player and parent of which your fair share do not have and or are willing to commit to.

                              Competitive is for kids and parents who genuinely like the sport, know the sport and know how to get the best out of their child wanting to develop every day. When kids see their parents disinterested it catches up, it always does.

                              There is nothing wrong with what you said, for rec. Competitive soccer is and should be a different animal altogether. I've seen time and time again Parents using soccer as an ****** for their child for "exercise" and "make friends", again that's fine, for rec. Getting exercise and making friends can happen at the competitive level but it can't be the priority.

                              There are a fair amount of teams out there with potential but do not develop because of their "I want competitive for the price of rec attitude and effort", figuratively speaking of course.

                              There is a huge divide between recreational and competitive soccer, it shouldn't be confusing; but like much in life we want the best for our kids regardless and want them to "look" the part more than we want them to "work" for the part.
                              Here is another situation - tell me if it is the same: I know parents who have very talented daughters playing high level soccer on senior age teams (ranked top #5 and better), and they have no intention of allowing their kids to play in college unless the school is an IVY or comparable, and they have no delusions - they really don't expect their kids will be selected for those teams, and truly they feel soccer would be a distraction to their purpose of attaining the education they want for their kid. It is great that they want the best education for their kids... but really all they are doing is using soccer to keep their kids in good physical shape, and taking a spot on a great team that another kid could be using.

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