Disney GU17 finals streaming

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JFA vs Michigan FC

Watch the Japanese take the bigger Americans apart.

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JFA 6-0! Ouch. Anyone watch the slaughter and able to comment. The Japanese still featuring younger, supremely technical kids?

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JFA 6-0! Ouch. Anyone watch the slaughter and able to comment. The Japanese still featuring younger, supremely technical kids?

JFA probably wouldve been held tighter against VSA heat or Bethesda from the other bracket, but definitley still wouldve exposed problems of US womens soccer.

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JFA 6-0! Ouch. Anyone watch the slaughter and able to comment. The Japanese still featuring younger, supremely technical kids?

Yes. They didn't look all that great at first, but once they got into a rhythm, look out. The score was 4-0 at the half and the first goal was scored around the 30 minute mark. The game is interesting to watch if for no other reason than to listen to the commentary during the game.

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You know nothings, complaining about US soccer make me crazy. JFA is the Japanese youth National team. They are expected to beat mediocre US club players. If BC or UNC went to Disney, they'd win much more convincingly.

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You know nothings, complaining about US soccer make me crazy. JFA is the Japanese youth National team. They are expected to beat mediocre US club players. If BC or UNC went to Disney, they'd win much more convincingly.
so would 17 year old Japanese players....most of these players were 13, 14 and 15....

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Looks like most of the Michigan girls need to lay off the extra helpings of lasagna.

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Skillful, creative, possession soccer beats US style big girl soccer every time. Age is not that important. I saw the JFA team play and the Japanese are working on the technical aspects of the game and pulling away from the US. If their youth numbers increase, which is likely after the WWC win, then their dedication and skill will make them unstoppable.

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Skillful, creative, possession soccer beats US style big girl soccer every time. Age is not that important. I saw the JFA team play and the Japanese are working on the technical aspects of the game and pulling away from the US. If their youth numbers increase, which is likely after the WWC win, then their dedication and skill will make them unstoppable.

Michigan FC is NOT U.S. Soccer. Japan hasn't pulled in front yet people, if you remember the WWC Final USA pretty much gave it up. USA girls were the better team 75% of the game, and gave up 2 bad goals that were very preventable. Don't get to excited about the failure of your own country...

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You either have not seen JFA play, or are an extreme jingoist to write the last post.

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Michigan FC is NOT U.S. Soccer. Japan hasn't pulled in front yet people, if you remember the WWC Final USA pretty much gave it up. USA girls were the better team 75% of the game, and gave up 2 bad goals that were very preventable. Don't get to excited about the failure of your own country...

The score was 6-0 and MFC only gve up 2 bad goals????

I realize the GS rankings are screwed up these days, but MFC would still be one of the top 10 teams in Region 2, however they were hardly the better team in that game. For Chrissake, JFA outshot them by a wide margin and those shots were technically superior to the few chances MFC had. Most of the game, once JFA got rolling, was played in MFC end of the field. MFC couldn't get anything going, because they couldn't maintain position of the ball. It was given away with either a bad pass or a hopefully clearance. The JFA girls weren't faster than MFC, but they were a hell of a lot quicker and that comes as a result of their training of which they get a lot more of then do most American players.

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Michigan FC tops USYS National League. They are one of the best U17G teams in the country. A 6-0 beat down by girls 2-3 years younger would serve as a wake up call if those in charge cared about more than the almighty dollar. We parents are purchasing a Mercedes and being supplied a Ford Pinto.

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Michigan FC tops USYS National League. They are one of the best U17G teams in the country. A 6-0 beat down by girls 2-3 years younger would serve as a wake up call if those in charge cared about more than the almighty dollar. We parents are purchasing a Mercedes and being supplied a Ford Pinto.

Well yes, but it goes a bit deeper than that. You are talking about two completely different cultures.

I have a relative that is Japanese, and she has detailed to me what an average day is for children in Japan. Can you imagine what American parents woudl say if their children came home and told them that during the morning break, they cleaned , mopped and scrubbed the classrooms ? On the other side of the coin, Japanese mothers have been known to get on their hands and knees with sponges, to dry off playing fields. Can you imagine Soccer Moms in America doing that?

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That's my point. US players are entitled and few are willing to do the monotonous work necessary to play skillful, attractive soccer. Few have any clue about finding a rhythm to the game, mentioned earlier. Most coaches preach high pressure, low risk, long ball soccer because it's easy to coach and effective. Other than JFA there were few teams at Disney "playing" soccer. US soccer culture needs to change. I know this is easier said than done.

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Michigan FC tops USYS National League. They are one of the best U17G teams in the country. A 6-0 beat down by girls 2-3 years younger would serve as a wake up call if those in charge cared about more than the almighty dollar. We parents are purchasing a Mercedes and being supplied a Ford Pinto.

They are not one of the best teams in the country. Maybe make top 25. When the Japanese team beats regional teams then you might have a comparison.

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" The score was 6-0 and MFC only gve up 2 bad goals???? "

You completely misread the post. Read it again.

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I watched this game and it was impressive. The temps in Tampa were very cold by Floridian standards, but these temps are common in January.

What impressed me the most, was the technical skill and critical thinking JFA team possessed. They outplayed Michigan in every sense of the game. Their quick passes made them less targets for physical style playing this team is known for. First to the ball, good first touches and passes to the right players.

The Michigan girls had a difficult time playing against this smaller team. I think most of the JFA ages were between 13 - 15.. very few looked 17.

I wish more US soccer clubs encourage this technical style of play.

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" The score was 6-0 and MFC only gve up 2 bad goals???? "

You completely misread the post. Read it again.

Yeah pretty sure they were talking about the World Cup game because USA did give up two bad, preventable goals in WWC.

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I watched this game and it was impressive. The temps in Tampa were very cold by Floridian standards, but these temps are common in January.

What impressed me the most, was the technical skill and critical thinking JFA team possessed. They outplayed Michigan in every sense of the game. Their quick passes made them less targets for physical style playing this team is known for. First to the ball, good first touches and passes to the right players.

The Michigan girls had a difficult time playing against this smaller team. I think most of the JFA ages were between 13 - 15.. very few looked 17.

I wish more US soccer clubs encourage this technical style of play.

Thats the thing! USA does have clus who encourage things like that. You arent gonna find that with Michigan FC. In terms of consistency Region 2 is probably the worst, and michigan FC is like a top 10 region 2 team. Again, if u had put CASL, Sting, TSC Hurricane, Eclipse, Scorpions.... It would be a completley different game.

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If you really think Scorps or Eclipse would handily beat JFA then we're watching with different coach colored glasses. JFA plays incredible soccer. I have only seen 2 or 3 girls teams over the past decade that play similarly.

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If you really think Scorps or Eclipse would handily beat JFA then we're watching with different coach colored glasses. JFA plays incredible soccer. I have only seen 2 or 3 girls teams over the past decade that play similarly.

I never said it would be easy insaid they were capable, top level teams in the nation play tactically and would know how to play them. Scorps can play fast 1-2 touch passing and have incredible forwards. They could physically beat up on JfA, especially TSH Hurricane would beat up on these girls physically

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JFA Academy is not Japan's National team. They appear to be a regular team playing in their L2 league. The league appears pretty competitive whereas JFA has a record of 5W 2L 3T. They appear to have 3 players on the U17 national team but they weren't in Florida.

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I finally had a few minutes to watch the JFA team play and if they are not the national team it is even more depressing to compare their technical skill, passing and game recognition to top US U17 girls teams. They play quickly when needed, but also take on players when appropriate. Watching them made me realize how little offensive midfield play US teams actually employ. JFA pass and surround the ball with options, instead of kicking it in front of themselves.

Before the game is removed from the website, I highly recommend parents and players watch it. You will not be disappointed!

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I finally had a few minutes to watch the JFA team play and if they are not the national team it is even more depressing to compare their technical skill, passing and game recognition to top US U17 girls teams. They play quickly when needed, but also take on players when appropriate. Watching them made me realize how little offensive midfield play US teams actually employ. JFA pass and surround the ball with options, instead of kicking it in front of themselves.

Before the game is removed from the website, I highly recommend parents and players watch it. You will not be disappointed!

On top of that, Japanese children lead the world as far as percentage of HS students that attend University.
Over 90 %.Closer to 95 % actually.

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their work ethic shows on the field and in the classroom.

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Watched the first half of the JFA MFC game. The commentator stated at the outset that he had spoken with the JFA team administrator and all of the girls on the JFA team were members of the u15 or u17 national teams. That makes sense as the JFA is a national team residence academy.

I was surprised by how unphysical the first half was. MFC is not a very physical team other than with their two big forwards who rarely saw the ball. Even still that game was less physical than any game my kid's team played at Disney. No doubt that is owing to the JFA team playing quick passes in part to avoid having to get into a physical game. The biggest problem to me was MFC's missing midfield which did not win or possess balls, made poor passes when it did get happen upon a ball, and did not seem to expend a lot of effort to defend.

MFC is a good team. They certainly are in the top 10 for Region 2. To me, I would put them at number 3 behind Hawks ECNL and Eclipse ECNL. I do not know much about Ohio and Indiana teams as they play a different club season and thus the teams do not see it each other much, and when the do play one of the two teams is going to be coming off their high school season so not really up to speed. MFC does have the ability to have a very bad game from time to time. They lost in Michigan's state cup final to what is essentially the Hawks B team. Usually though the team they are playing when they have a bad game is not as good as the JFA team.

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MFC played like many US girls teams and bypassed midfield regularly. Against another team playing this style, not utilizing midfielders in attack, this would not be as evident. Against JFA it was glaring. I've attended high level tournaments and 99% of the teams play without building an attack through the midfield. It's all hustle, counter, and play quick, go, go go! This style wins games, and hides technical weaknesses, but it doesn't develop sophisticated, versatile players.

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I don't disagree, but I confess I too would have tried going Route One against JFA with MFC's two big forwards just to see if they could make something happen. That never seemed to connect presumably due mostly to JFA's ability to pressure the ball after a turnover and prevent clean outlet passes. When they did play through the midfield though I thought their passing was simply bad. Again, I would not expect them to beat JFA, but usually their mids play better than that -- as noted by the commentators they made several unforced turnovers and were giving the ball away quite a bit.

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A huge problem with the direct, bypass midfield style of play most US teams employ is that midfielders are destroyers, not creators. When placed under pressure, these players can't hold the ball and build an attack through midfield. They revert to what they know and do best. JFA, on the other hand reverts to what they know best, a game based on skill and technique. Once MFC realized that JFA was denying direct outlet passes, and bracket covering the two forwards, they seemed out of ideas.

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MFC played like many US girls teams and bypassed midfield regularly. Against another team playing this style, not utilizing midfielders in attack, this would not be as evident. Against JFA it was glaring. I've attended high level tournaments and 99% of the teams play without building an attack through the midfield. It's all hustle, counter, and play quick, go, go go! This style wins games, and hides technical weaknesses, but it doesn't develop sophisticated, versatile players.

I know a midfielder, sort of on the small side, although realistically more on the average size, who's coach praised her vision and quick feet and criticized her defense and ability to win the ball physically. It was an accurate description that probably would also apply to most of the JFA players. The difference is in Japan these types of players become your starters while in the US they become your subs. The emphasis there is to develop passing players. Here it is to develop (if we can really say develop) the physical player. The description of creators and destroyers fits very well to describe the differences.

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coaches also know what they have. to play a jfa type passing game requires a team of similarly skilled and aware players all of whom are calm under pressure. most teams, even at the top levels of us club soccer do not have the necessary skills, and it would require way more than 2 hour and a half practices per week to acquire them.

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I know a midfielder, sort of on the small side, although realistically more on the average size, who's coach praised her vision and quick feet and criticized her defense and ability to win the ball physically. It was an accurate description that probably would also apply to most of the JFA players. The difference is in Japan these types of players become your starters while in the US they become your subs. The emphasis there is to develop passing players. Here it is to develop (if we can really say develop) the physical player. The description of creators and destroyers fits very well to describe the differences.

in the US this is so true on both the women's and men's sides (at all levels)--the mids are destroyers and ball winners, not creative passers with vision and attacking ability--our mids are not "dangerous" with the ball. Give me a creative attacking mid with vision any day over the big hulking bruiser who can win a ball, but can't do a darn thing once they get it, which unfortunately is the US way.

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Creative midfielders are so Euro foot fairy! Target Abby the Tank with laser guided long balls all day. Win baby win!

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Creative midfielders are so Euro foot fairy! Target Abby the Tank with laser guided long balls all day. Win baby win!

Ya they will "win baby win" until they play a possession creative more skilled team who will make them run in circles and bury them.

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in the US this is so true on both the women's and men's sides (at all levels)--the mids are destroyers and ball winners, not creative passers with vision and attacking ability--our mids are not "dangerous" with the ball. Give me a creative attacking mid with vision any day over the big hulking bruiser who can win a ball, but can't do a darn thing once they get it, which unfortunately is the US way.

The destroyers win youth games initially. That's the problem. No singular person (coach) or group of people (parents) is to blame. Everyone is to blame, because so much emphasis is put on winning meaningless youth games at far too early a stage.

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Creative midfielders are so Euro foot fairy! Target Abby the Tank with laser guided long balls all day. Win baby win!

Abby, who is a great player, would be an even better player if she was developed as a creative attacker. It would mean she had more tools in her tool kit then just her size. Our top players are the ones most cheated by a ridiculous attitude such as yours.

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The destroyers win youth games initially. That's the problem. No singular person (coach) or group of people (parents) is to blame. Everyone is to blame, because so much emphasis is put on winning meaningless youth games at far too early a stage.

Not everyone. Not the children.

Children played " meaningless games " previous to adult meddling. They weren't " meaningless " to the children in the past, and they aren't today.

They are only " meaningless' because the groups that meddle and the groups that enable find no meaning in the results.

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Not everyone. Not the children.

Children played " meaningless games " previous to adult meddling. They weren't " meaningless " to the children in the past, and they aren't today.

They are only " meaningless' because the groups that meddle and the groups that enable find no meaning in the results.

Huh???

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Abby, who is a great player, would be an even better player if she was developed as a creative attacker. It would mean she had more tools in her tool kit then just her size. Our top players are the ones most cheated by a ridiculous attitude such as yours.

Says who? Have to love these arm chair generals who never developed anything near the talent she has sitting in complete obscurity talking about what she should have done differently. Abby uses her size because it is her physical advantage. The little people around the world can't stop her but now you want to have her change her game. Those little people who make such precise runs and are so technically proficient come from a cuture that thought it was ok to fly their planes into ships. They are just a little cracked if you ask me but if you want to build a whole development process around a culture that expects people kill themselves when they screw up you go right ahead. I'm sure there are a few in the Range Rover crowd that will foot the bill for it.

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Says who? Have to love these arm chair generals who never developed anything near the talent she has sitting in complete obscurity talking about what she should have done differently. Abby uses her size because it is her physical advantage. The little people around the world can't stop her but now you want to have her change her game. Those little people who make such precise runs and are so technically proficient come from a cuture that thought it was ok to fly their planes into ships. They are just a little cracked if you ask me but if you want to build a whole development process around a culture that expects people kill themselves when they screw up you go right ahead. I'm sure there are a few in the Range Rover crowd that will foot the bill for it.

Japan won the world cup. Get over it.

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Those little people who make such precise runs and are so technically proficient come from a cuture that thought it was ok to fly their planes into ships.Frankly, US women's soccer exhibits more of a kamikazi-win-by-sacrificing-your-body-and-slamming-into-your-opponent approach than the Japanese women's teams.

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Says who? Have to love these arm chair generals who never developed anything near the talent she has sitting in complete obscurity talking about what she should have done differently. Abby uses her size because it is her physical advantage. The little people around the world can't stop her but now you want to have her change her game. Those little people who make such precise runs and are so technically proficient come from a cuture that thought it was ok to fly their planes into ships. They are just a little cracked if you ask me but if you want to build a whole development process around a culture that expects people kill themselves when they screw up you go right ahead. I'm sure there are a few in the Range Rover crowd that will foot the bill for it.

Your a total idiot if you don't think Wambach could improve her game.