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    NCAA & Div 1 soccer spring season

    This would be funny except that it is a real proposal. If they really want to increase academic excellence , they should focus on football and basketball

    http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-na...ng-competition

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    “Many faculty think that athletics are over-emphasized, over-funded and it’s at the expense of the concentration being focused on academics,” said Rob Kehoe, Director of College Programs for National Soccer Coaches Association of America (NSCAA). “But if it’s about academic performance, why would you be targeting these sports?" (soccer teams, volleyball teams, women’s lacrosse teams, softball teams, cross country runners or field hockey players)


    There are 2 legitimate points made above, one by the academics and one by the NSCAA representative. But why are they going after these sports when women's sports in particular have a statistically higher graduation rate than do men's teams with men's football and basketball having the worst? Is this a backdoor shot at Title IX by the NCAA?

    I'd have no problem with reducing the fall soccer schedule, but not the spring for all the same points made in the article. If colleges want to reduce cost, realign the conferences to cut down on travel costs.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      This would be funny except that it is a real proposal. If they really want to increase academic excellence , they should focus on football and basketball

      http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-na...ng-competition
      For those of us with kids that do play D1 sports, this it the stuff that pushes kids to opt out of getting a college degree. Thank you very much you bunch of "let's punish the kids who are doing the right thing and not the programs/players who are the problem" types - you're just a bunch of #%€£¥ bullies....

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        For those of us with kids that do play D1 sports, this it the stuff that pushes kids to opt out of getting a college degree.
        How do you figure?

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          #5
          It is interesting in that it does seem to pick on womens sports. Remember that Title IX is not a NCAA mandate, but one required under Federal Law. So if NCAA rules result in a T9 violation, there is no cover. Off-season competition for female team programs is no way as expensive as the regular season costs, however, it does add to the "need" for full time coaches and some travel, which adds to expenses. But what this is really about the NCAA and its absolute haplessness when it comes to legitimately controlling the direction of big-time football and basketball - but appeasing academic "concerns" by tinkering with non-revenue generating programs.

          This Thanksgiving their were b-ball teams involved in tournaments in Cancun and the Bahamas. Please... you want to eliminate fall softball but are more than happy to have college teams playing a "tournament" in th Atlantis casino? This is the u;ltimate in hypocrisy, but expect passage (probably not enforced until 2013). BTW, the NCAA and its member instuitutions are expecting (and hoping for) some dramatic changes in Washington come 2012 and a significant gutting of Title IX. So expect many more cuts to womens' programs in the future!!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            BTW, the NCAA and its member instuitutions are expecting (and hoping for) some dramatic changes in Washington come 2012 and a significant gutting of Title IX. So expect many more cuts to womens' programs in the future!!

            What is that suppose to mean?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              This would be funny except that it is a real proposal. If they really want to increase academic excellence , they should focus on football and basketball

              http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-na...ng-competition

              NCAA is discriminating against soccer and they do not have a leg to stand on. Academic excellence is a smoke screen to save football, basketball scholarships. If they wanted academic excellence, colleges should cut back football and basket ball training programs because those players are not the brightest bunch and .

              In terms of academic performance, statistically, soccer players are one of the top performing student athletes, and football and basket ball are the lowest.

              The NCAA should be boycotted or people should protest this move.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                NCAA is discriminating against soccer and they do not have a leg to stand on. Academic excellence is a smoke screen to save football, basketball scholarships. If they wanted academic excellence, colleges should cut back football and basket ball training programs because those players are not the brightest bunch and .

                In terms of academic performance, statistically, soccer players are one of the top performing student athletes, and football and basket ball are the lowest.

                The NCAA should be boycotted or people should protest this move.

                As long as the MLS owns the players and not the clubs; money, power and infuence will never be in USA soccer. There is no incentives to develop MLS youth players at a club level or even a college level and use them as farm programs to the MLS.

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                  #9
                  In 2005, the Bush administration, via the Education Department, issued guidelines that were intended to undermine Title IX in respect to collegiate athletics. Basically they offered a new lessened mechanism to determine if a school's women's programs complied with the law. A school could survey the student body to see if they expressed interest in expanding women's offerings. If responses were negative (or limited) it was determined that offerings were adequate, even if the school didn't meet traditioanl determinents like equality of funding.

                  The NCAA didn't request these changes or support them once implimented and when Obama was elected they were revoked. But there has been a shift at the NCAA over the last 7 years and the football lobby has become far more influential. That is the reason for the proposal and whay you can expect that if the Ed Dep changes the regs again, you can expect the full support of the NCAA, as currently operating.

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