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    keep a close eye on these changes. Although driven primarily by football, the entry of Pittsburgh and Syracuse into the ACC will give an instant boost to their soccer recruiting. The possibility of Rutgers and U Conn also entering the ACC will have an even greater impact in New England soccer circles. Lets face it, the draw to BC has been largely because of their play in the east's top soccer conference (for the ladies). An ACC bound U Conn will give another top option to the region's elite players. You can also expect changes in the second tier of leagues (like a possible move of U Mass into a "new" Big 12/Big East Conference?) or an expansion/change to the A-10 via a merger with current non-football Big East members like Villanova, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence and Marquette. Things are changing rapidly... watch out!

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    Well, the National Champion last year in women's soccer came from the Big East!

    They just get no respect. It is sad what is happening, and none of those in charge care about the athletes.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      keep a close eye on these changes. Although driven primarily by football, the entry of Pittsburgh and Syracuse into the ACC will give an instant boost to their soccer recruiting. The possibility of Rutgers and U Conn also entering the ACC will have an even greater impact in New England soccer circles. Lets face it, the draw to BC has been largely because of their play in the east's top soccer conference (for the ladies). An ACC bound U Conn will give another top option to the region's elite players. You can also expect changes in the second tier of leagues (like a possible move of U Mass into a "new" Big 12/Big East Conference?) or an expansion/change to the A-10 via a merger with current non-football Big East members like Villanova, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence and Marquette. Things are changing rapidly... watch out!
      This assumes that academics is of no importance to these players.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        This assumes that academics is of no importance to these players.

        I assume that you are claiming that BC is academically superior to U Conn. Certainly U Conn's willingness to allow their men's basketball program/coach to compete at the borders of NCAA rules has reflected badly on the university, but that really doesn't relate to the womens soccer team and their academic relationship to what is a great school (with numerous programs that would be rated superior to BC). Now whether BC, Miami and Virginia Tech can effectively block an ACC invitation for the Huskies is another story entirely, but trust me, U Conn in a new "super" ACC quickly passes BC as the undisputed king (and queen) of college athletics in New England... and their recruiting would be helped by that (at the expense of BC). BC's problems with U Conn are personal, but beyond that, Difillipo recognizes that U Conn (and possibly U Mass) represent competition they don't want.... or need!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I assume that you are claiming that BC is academically superior to U Conn. Certainly U Conn's willingness to allow their men's basketball program/coach to compete at the borders of NCAA rules has reflected badly on the university, but that really doesn't relate to the womens soccer team and their academic relationship to what is a great school (with numerous programs that would be rated superior to BC). Now whether BC, Miami and Virginia Tech can effectively block an ACC invitation for the Huskies is another story entirely, but trust me, U Conn in a new "super" ACC quickly passes BC as the undisputed king (and queen) of college athletics in New England... and their recruiting would be helped by that (at the expense of BC). BC's problems with U Conn are personal, but beyond that, Difillipo recognizes that U Conn (and possibly U Mass) represent competition they don't want.... or need!
          US News says:

          BC #31
          UConn #58

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            US News says:

            BC #31
            UConn #58
            Tuition comparison?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Tuition comparison?
              BC $41,480
              UConn in state -$21,720; out of state $38,616

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                US News says:

                BC #31
                UConn #58
                Really not a significant difference. If you are competing in the Boston market, sure the BC connections have excellent value, but in New York (and definitely Hartford) U Conn has the current advantage. BTW, the New England cost for U Conn is $28,200, and like all public schools, attractive out-of-state applicants are very desirable and typically garner larger financial aid awards than comparable in-state students. BC actually has a poor reputation regarding FA for students coming from inside 495. Fact is, they really don't need to be tthat generous because that market is willing to take less for the BC brand.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Really not a significant difference. If you are competing in the Boston market, sure the BC connections have excellent value, but in New York (and definitely Hartford) U Conn has the current advantage. BTW, the New England cost for U Conn is $28,200, and like all public schools, attractive out-of-state applicants are very desirable and typically garner larger financial aid awards than comparable in-state students. BC actually has a poor reputation regarding FA for students coming from inside 495. Fact is, they really don't need to be tthat generous because that market is willing to take less for the BC brand.
                  Where do you get these "facts"?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Really not a significant difference. If you are competing in the Boston market, sure the BC connections have excellent value, but in New York (and definitely Hartford) U Conn has the current advantage. BTW, the New England cost for U Conn is $28,200, and like all public schools, attractive out-of-state applicants are very desirable and typically garner larger financial aid awards than comparable in-state students. BC actually has a poor reputation regarding FA for students coming from inside 495. Fact is, they really don't need to be tthat generous because that market is willing to take less for the BC brand.
                    For out of state players the difference between tuition is inconsequential; however there is a difference between being located within metro Boston and Storrs. Can you say Mooooooo!?

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                      #11
                      I don't know where some of you get your ideas. UConn is a perfectly fine school and a kid going there certainly can do whatever he or she wants provided they do well enough. On a par with UMass-A. That said, BC is a clearly superior academic school. BC is closer to the Ivies than UConn is to BC. Leaving athletics aside, BC is a far tougher admit, definitely in the top tier among elite US universities and colleges.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don't know where some of you get your ideas. UConn is a perfectly fine school and a kid going there certainly can do whatever he or she wants provided they do well enough. On a par with UMass-A. That said, BC is a clearly superior academic school. BC is closer to the Ivies than UConn is to BC. Leaving athletics aside, BC is a far tougher admit, definitely in the top tier among elite US universities and colleges.
                        I'm not sure what is more ridiculous: The constant excuse that BC's purported high admissions standards keep them from real success in football and basketball or the misguided assertion that BC is close to the Ivies in respect to national reputation. Here is the fact, outside of greater Boston, BC is seen as a nice school, but no-one equates BC with an Ivy League education and the reality is that BC is much closer to U Conn than Dartmouth or Cornell never mind Harvard and Yale. BTW, BC's athletic admissions standards are generally stricter than most other D1 programs, but that doesn't mean that the kids accepted via a athletic scholarship are great (or even good) students. Its all relative but being the most honest criminal isn't all that great an accomplishment

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I'm not sure what is more ridiculous: The constant excuse that BC's purported high admissions standards keep them from real success in football and basketball or the misguided assertion that BC is close to the Ivies in respect to national reputation. Here is the fact, outside of greater Boston, BC is seen as a nice school, but no-one equates BC with an Ivy League education and the reality is that BC is much closer to U Conn than Dartmouth or Cornell never mind Harvard and Yale. BTW, BC's athletic admissions standards are generally stricter than most other D1 programs, but that doesn't mean that the kids accepted via a athletic scholarship are great (or even good) students. Its all relative but being the most honest criminal isn't all that great an accomplishment
                          Do you think every athlete admitted to Duke, Vanderbilt, or Rice is a great student?

                          I don't have any stake in whether or not BC makes excuses about why they aren't better in football or basketball (they've done fairly well in both against a very high level of competition).

                          But let's cut to the chase. Is BC a tougher school to get in compared to UConn? Case closed.

                          BC accepts 1-2 kids from our large public high school each year. 25-30 at a minimum could gain admission to UConn, or UMass or UVM. It is not unusual for some kids to get admitted to some of the NESCACs (excluding only the top 3-4 NESCACs) and get denied at BC. I don't understand the BC bashing. Just look at the data and you will see where BC falls in terms of admissions selectivity. BC is a hair below the 3 schools listed in the first sentence above, but only a hair, and those 3 certainly can compete toe-to-toe with the bottom of the Ivies.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            For out of state players the difference between tuition is inconsequential; however there is a difference between being located within metro Boston and Storrs. Can you say Mooooooo!?
                            I'd be willing to bet that most college kids would rather hang out in NYC than "Bean Town".

                            Of course, what does it matter to your brilliant and athletically superior child. I am sure they don't get to spend any time off the campus of BC (unless they are traveling to games) because they are on the pitch or in the library.

                            I'd guess, as an earliuer poster suggested, this well thought out response stems from a personal grudge...or more likely...fear of stronger competition.

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                              #15
                              Back to the issue of soccer - I think the expansion of the ACC is great news for local soccer players (both boys and girls) who want to take their gane to the highest level of college soccer possible. The ACC, as a league, plays some of the best soccer in college.

                              By expanding the number of teams in the league, there will be more opportunity for local players to get into the league and benefit from the quality of play. I think this is a good story for soccer.



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