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mama2twinsplus1
06-28-2007, 03:50 PM
I am not going to name the coach or the club, but my son and some of his friends tried out for a local Maple team (and there are not many in this part of the state). On the last day of tryouts, the coach told the boys that he would call them in a couple of days to let them know the results of the tryouts-that was two weeks ago. Yesterday, I spoke to another mother who heard that the coach called only the players that made the team, but he did not communicate with any of the other families at all. According to my reliable source, the roster was essentially the same as last year-I don't really have a problem with that, except that a lot of boys tried out and I believe that it was very unprofessional to fail to call or at least write the other players about the results. This was my first experience with the league and there are not a lot of choices around here. For now I will just stick with the travel team for my son, but I hope that other people have had more positive experiences with Maple!

Liverpool Coach
06-28-2007, 04:14 PM
The coach should call all the players that tried out regardless of whether they made the team or not. I always do that with my teams and think that it's just common courtesy. If a coach / club does not do that then I would not even consider them in the future

Soccer Fan
06-28-2007, 07:27 PM
While Liverpool Coach is correct about what SHOULD be done I don't think your experience is all that unusual

06-28-2007, 07:30 PM
Mama, this is like when you go on a date and the guy drops you off and says he'll call you, then never does.

06-28-2007, 08:05 PM
Sorry but I dis-agree with that last statement made by "guest". In your scenario you are talking about adults. In the try outs we are talking about kids that we are supposed to set examples for. In my opinion there is a huge difference and if a coach can not be mature and responsible enough to call every one back then I would never consider playing for that coach at any point in the future because I would not trust him / her

Liverpool Coach
06-28-2007, 08:07 PM
Oops, that above post was made by me...I did not realize I was not logged in :idea:

06-28-2007, 08:22 PM
LC, you didn't date until you were am adult? Wouldn't your mommy let you out of the house?

Cujo
06-28-2007, 08:33 PM
I am not going to name the coach or the club, but my son and some of his friends tried out for a local Maple team (and there are not many in this part of the state). On the last day of tryouts, the coach told the boys that he would call them in a couple of days to let them know the results of the tryouts-that was two weeks ago. Yesterday, I spoke to another mother who heard that the coach called only the players that made the team, but he did not communicate with any of the other families at all. According to my reliable source, the roster was essentially the same as last year-I don't really have a problem with that, except that a lot of boys tried out and I believe that it was very unprofessional to fail to call or at least write the other players about the results. This was my first experience with the league and there are not a lot of choices around here. For now I will just stick with the travel team for my son, but I hope that other people have had more positive experiences with Maple!

To give you someone to compare to I will relate the following. My daughter tried out for Rob Gonnam's U14 team some years back. He ultimately decided not to field a team. He called my daughter twice to let her know that he had not made a decision on the team and then in mid July sent her a handwritten note letting her know that he was not fielding a team due to insufficient numbers and thanking her for trying out, praising her effort and skills, and wishing her the best in her future soccer endeavours and offered to help her find a slot on another team. She learned more from him in 4 hours of tryouts than she did from her U12 coach in two seasons. He is an intense but absolutely classy individual. On the flip side her U11 coach refused to return phone call for two months and then cut her leaving her hanging for the fall without a team. He's out of MAPLE now and back in Scotland. I hope he is getting rained on as we speak.

06-28-2007, 08:44 PM
You don't hold a grudge, do you?

06-28-2007, 08:45 PM
He's out of MAPLE now and back in Scotland. I hope he is getting rained on as we speak.

:D

06-28-2007, 08:54 PM
I am not going to name the coach or the club, but my son and some of his friends tried out for a local Maple team (and there are not many in this part of the state). On the last day of tryouts, the coach told the boys that he would call them in a couple of days to let them know the results of the tryouts-that was two weeks ago. Yesterday, I spoke to another mother who heard that the coach called only the players that made the team, but he did not communicate with any of the other families at all. According to my reliable source, the roster was essentially the same as last year-I don't really have a problem with that, except that a lot of boys tried out and I believe that it was very unprofessional to fail to call or at least write the other players about the results. This was my first experience with the league and there are not a lot of choices around here. For now I will just stick with the travel team for my son, but I hope that other people have had more positive experiences with Maple!

To give you someone to compare to I will relate the following. My daughter tried out for Rob Gonnam's U14 team some years back. He ultimately decided not to field a team. He called my daughter twice to let her know that he had not made a decision on the team and then in mid July sent her a handwritten note letting her know that he was not fielding a team due to insufficient numbers and thanking her for trying out, praising her effort and skills, and wishing her the best in her future soccer endeavours and offered to help her find a slot on another team. She learned more from him in 4 hours of tryouts than she did from her U12 coach in two seasons. He is an intense but absolutely classy individual. On the flip side her U11 coach refused to return phone call for two months and then cut her leaving her hanging for the fall without a team. He's out of MAPLE now and back in Scotland. I hope he is getting rained on as we speak.

It's easy to send a hand written note when you don't have enough players to field a team.

Some coaches now would suffer from permanent ligament damage if they tried that.

Cujo
06-29-2007, 08:32 AM
You don't hold a grudge, do you?

I'm Irish - I am still p1ssed off at Longshanks.

Cujo
06-29-2007, 08:35 AM
I am not going to name the coach or the club, but my son and some of his friends tried out for a local Maple team (and there are not many in this part of the state). On the last day of tryouts, the coach told the boys that he would call them in a couple of days to let them know the results of the tryouts-that was two weeks ago. Yesterday, I spoke to another mother who heard that the coach called only the players that made the team, but he did not communicate with any of the other families at all. According to my reliable source, the roster was essentially the same as last year-I don't really have a problem with that, except that a lot of boys tried out and I believe that it was very unprofessional to fail to call or at least write the other players about the results. This was my first experience with the league and there are not a lot of choices around here. For now I will just stick with the travel team for my son, but I hope that other people have had more positive experiences with Maple!

True, but they have these really neat devises called, I think, t-e-l-e-p-h-o-n-e-s........... It takes a while to get a callous from dialing.

To give you someone to compare to I will relate the following. My daughter tried out for Rob Gonnam's U14 team some years back. He ultimately decided not to field a team. He called my daughter twice to let her know that he had not made a decision on the team and then in mid July sent her a handwritten note letting her know that he was not fielding a team due to insufficient numbers and thanking her for trying out, praising her effort and skills, and wishing her the best in her future soccer endeavours and offered to help her find a slot on another team. She learned more from him in 4 hours of tryouts than she did from her U12 coach in two seasons. He is an intense but absolutely classy individual. On the flip side her U11 coach refused to return phone call for two months and then cut her leaving her hanging for the fall without a team. He's out of MAPLE now and back in Scotland. I hope he is getting rained on as we speak.

It's easy to send a hand written note when you don't have enough players to field a team.

Some coaches now would suffer from permanent ligament damage if they tried that.

True, but they have these really neat devices called, I think, t-e-l-e-p-h-o-n-e-s........... It takes a while to get a callous from dialing.

FSM
06-29-2007, 08:35 AM
Mama, this is like when you go on a date and the guy drops you off and says he'll call you, then never does.

I think you would have to be female to really appreciate this comment. :)

mama2twinsplus1
06-29-2007, 09:26 PM
[You've got that right FSM! :) Most women learn at a very young age that men do not always mean what they say-unfortunately, 11 year old boys expect adults to do what they promise to do!

FSM
06-30-2007, 01:35 PM
[You've got that right FSM! :) Most women learn at a very young age that men do not always mean what they say-unfortunately, 11 year old boys expect adults to do what they promise to do!

And then those 11 year old boys become young men who promise to call their date and never do. And we wonder why. :?

06-30-2007, 06:25 PM
Mama, this is like when you go on a date and the guy drops you off and says he'll call you, then never does.

I think you would have to be female to really appreciate this comment. :)

[You've got that right FSM! :) Most women learn at a very young age that men do not always mean what they say-unfortunately, 11 year old boys expect adults to do what they promise to do!

And then those 11 year old boys become young men who promise to call their date and never do. And we wonder why. :?

Guys may not always mean what they say, but women don't always say what they mean.

On the other hand, your tactical approach may just be a tad outdated. Sitting around, wondering and waiting for a phone call, cedes far too much control of the situation. Especially when you know it’s a natural weakness for the other side.

If a coach doesn’t contact you in a reasonable amount of time, call him yourself. If your call doesn’t get returned, then it’s time to move on. The coach either doesn’t appreciate you, or he’s indecisive and wimpy, or he’s just rude and inconsiderate, and you’re far better off without him.
;)

06-30-2007, 07:11 PM
sorry, didn't sign in

keeper
06-30-2007, 07:15 PM
Mama, this is like when you go on a date and the guy drops you off and says he'll call you, then never does.

I think you would have to be female to really appreciate this comment. :)

[You've got that right FSM! :) Most women learn at a very young age that men do not always mean what they say-unfortunately, 11 year old boys expect adults to do what they promise to do!

And then those 11 year old boys become young men who promise to call their date and never do. And we wonder why. :?

Guys may not always mean what they say, but women don't always say what they mean.

On the other hand, your tactical approach may just be a tad outdated. Sitting around, wondering and waiting for a phone call, cedes far too much control of the situation. Especially when you know it’s a natural weakness for the other side.

If a coach doesn’t contact you in a reasonable amount of time, call him yourself. If your call doesn’t get returned, then it’s time to move on. The coach either doesn’t appreciate you, or he’s indecisive and wimpy, or he’s just rude and inconsiderate, and you’re far better off without him.
;)

06-30-2007, 07:28 PM
[On the other hand, your tactical approach may just be a tad outdated. Sitting around, wondering and waiting for a phone call, cedes far too much control of the situation. Especially when you know it’s a natural weakness for the other side.

If a coach doesn’t contact you in a reasonable amount of time, call him yourself. If your call doesn’t get returned, then it’s time to move on. The coach either doesn’t appreciate you, or he’s indecisive and wimpy, or he’s just rude and inconsiderate, and you’re far better off without him.
;)[/quote]

I don't typically sit around waiting for phone calls and I did call when I had not heard anything. I did not receive a return phone call, so I called another parent that I thought would know what was happening. I don't plan on going through the trouble of driving my child to a tryout and the coach does not have the common decency to call back or write. I agree that we are better off without him but it makes me wonder what type of a coach (and a man) that he is and how he deals with the boys on his team.

I think that most women mean what they say, but many men do not always understand what the woman is trying to say, do not half listen anyway, or don't care what the woman has to say. I realize that all men do not fall into any of these categories, so I don't want to completely generalize! ;)

mama2twinsplus1
07-01-2007, 12:11 PM
This was me-I thought that i was signed in since I had checked off the box to stay logged in! :)
[On the other hand, your tactical approach may just be a tad outdated. Sitting around, wondering and waiting for a phone call, cedes far too much control of the situation. Especially when you know it’s a natural weakness for the other side.

If a coach doesn’t contact you in a reasonable amount of time, call him yourself. If your call doesn’t get returned, then it’s time to move on. The coach either doesn’t appreciate you, or he’s indecisive and wimpy, or he’s just rude and inconsiderate, and you’re far better off without him.
;)

I don't typically sit around waiting for phone calls and I did call when I had not heard anything. I did not receive a return phone call, so I called another parent that I thought would know what was happening. I don't plan on going through the trouble of driving my child to a tryout and the coach does not have the common decency to call back or write. I agree that we are better off without him but it makes me wonder what type of a coach (and a man) that he is and how he deals with the boys on his team.

I think that most women mean what they say, but many men do not always understand what the woman is trying to say, do not half listen anyway, or don't care what the woman has to say. I realize that all men do not fall into any of these categories, so I don't want to completely generalize! ;)[/quote]