Club Tryouts

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Lets hear where people are headed for tryouts? People leaving one club for another?

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New Bayside and Bolts

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Blackwatch and Rays

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New Bayside and Bolts

Boys or girls?

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We'll be trying out for the U14 Rays (they'll be the U15 Rays next spring)

Looking at their record, they appear to be the best team in RI at this time

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I have 2 boys they will be u12 and u14 they are driving me carzy about playing club, They want to tryout for Bayside but after some research I dont think they can make the teams. One of my boys has a better chance then the other but I would like to keep them at the same club it would make things easy for me(I know I'm a bad mom lol). Any suggestions?

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I would encourage your boys to tryout. The U12 & U14 teams next year are very talented, but they are far from perfect. The coaches may see something in your boys that fill a niche with each team, or see some potential that the coaches feel can be developed. Depending on where your boys play currently, the training that they are getting is probably less than what they will get with Bayside. The coaches realize that some players have raw ability that just hasn't been cultivated yet by their town SuperLiga coach. Bayside coaches have the ability to bring the best out of a player given the player is dedicated to working hard. Good Luck!

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Boys or girls?

Girls will be U-16 in the spring. They will be the team to beat in RI in this age group.

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I have 2 boys they will be u12 and u14 they are driving me carzy about playing club, They want to tryout for Bayside but after some research I dont think they can make the teams. One of my boys has a better chance then the other but I would like to keep them at the same club it would make things easy for me(I know I'm a bad mom lol). Any suggestions?

try blackwatch,tidal wave, bruno if they don't make Bayside.

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Girls will be U-16 in the spring. They will be the team to beat in RI in this age group.

Have to agree with this statement, with the new merger it will bring some good coaching and players.

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We'll be trying out for the U14 Rays (they'll be the U15 Rays next spring)

Looking at their record, they appear to be the best team in RI at this time

Thanks mom!

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Have to agree with this statement, with the new merger it will bring some good coaching and players.

What Merger ?

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What Merger ?

FC Bolts and Bayside

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I have 2 boys they will be u12 and u14 they are driving me carzy about playing club, They want to tryout for Bayside but after some research I dont think they can make the teams. One of my boys has a better chance then the other but I would like to keep them at the same club it would make things easy for me(I know I'm a bad mom lol). Any suggestions?

You should have them try out for several clubs, especially if this is their first time playing club. You will find that different teams will be at different levels, but all are playing competitive soccer. Also, the costs vary considerably between the different clubs. There are many choices in the RI/SE MA area:

Bayside
Bruno
Blackwatch
Tidal Wave FC
RI Soccer Club
RI Rams
Lusitania
Explosion FC
Nor'easter Stingers

All have websites with tryout information listed. Good luck!

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FC Bolts and Bayside

It is not a merger - it is an affiliation and really isn't doing anything different for the younger teams...more for the older teams to give them opportunity for the DAP team. All coaches remain the same...each club will still have their own teams.

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You should have them try out for several clubs, especially if this is their first time playing club. You will find that different teams will be at different levels, but all are playing competitive soccer. Also, the costs vary considerably between the different clubs. There are many choices in the RI/SE MA area:

Bayside
Bruno
Blackwatch
Tidal Wave FC
RI Soccer Club
RI Rams
Lusitania
Explosion FC
Nor'easter Stingers

All have websites with tryout information listed. Good luck!

Nor'Easter Stingers is changing their name to Academica

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We'll be trying out for the U14 Rays (they'll be the U15 Rays next spring)

Looking at their record, they appear to be the best team in RI at this time

Sure a team with a good record is nice but are they developing good skills? My choice would be based on the quality of the training rather than the merit of a winning record.

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Sure a team with a good record is nice but are they developing good skills? My choice would be based on the quality of the training rather than the merit of a winning record.

I know this may sound kind of stupid, but in some cases, developing good skills actually leads to a winning record.

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Sure a team with a good record is nice but are they developing good skills? My choice would be based on the quality of the training rather than the merit of a winning record.

Thanks for the advice. I'll avoid the teams with the better records for the ones that are developing good skills.

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Sure a team with a good record is nice but are they developing good skills? My choice would be based on the quality of the training rather than the merit of a winning record.

You're right! And that's why I am a diehard Detroit Lions fan. They have not had the best record over the last few years, but gosh darn it they are really working on their skills. I would never want to play for any other team.

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I know this may sound kind of stupid, but in some cases, developing good skills actually leads to a winning record.

Not always true just watch the U-14 rays play very sloppy with every body on defense. Hence the good record!

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Not always true just watch the U-14 rays play very sloppy with every body on defense. Hence the good record!

I saw the u14 rays play in the sc tournament. I'd take a number of their players as they had some solid skills and contrary to your expresed opinion on this site, some solid coaching. If you are someone who had a daughter that did not make it through a rays tryout and you are sad or upset about it, tryout for them again as maybe she can make it this time. cutting down the team on this site won;t help you.

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Not always true just watch the U-14 rays play very sloppy with every body on defense. Hence the good record!

Take this to the other thread. I want to know where people are taking there players!

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Lets hear where people are headed for tryouts? People leaving one club for another?

On the boys side Bayside. One the girls side that's a tough call. Depends on the age group but in general Bayside has more upside. Stay away from the Rays, poor coaching/club organization

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On the boys side Bayside. One the girls side that's a tough call. Depends on the age group but in general Bayside has more upside. Stay away from the Rays, poor coaching/club organization

BEWARE OF THIS POSTER: disgruntled parent. Daughter not getting enough playing time on a well coached and generally a pretty skilled team with a solid record that any other parent/player/coach/club would be proud of.

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BEWARE OF THIS POSTER: disgruntled parent. Daughter not getting enough playing time on a well coached and generally a pretty skilled team with a solid record that any other parent/player/coach/club would be proud of.

Beware: This is the coach trying to defend his collapsing team!

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Beware: This is the coach trying to defend his collapsing team!

It's not the coach. Find another team!

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Take this to the other thread. I want to know where people are taking there players!

BW lost some star players--Bayside remianed relatively stable, and the rays picked up some new players last fall which will lead to some of the players who have been with the rays and are no longer in the starting lineup to seek other teams. But it may be tough for some of the rays castoffs to find a spot on some other roster unless they look to BW or to some MA teams that have also had defections of star players like Explosion or Inter. These teams may be places to go for U14-15 players who have been seeing more bench time than they (or their parents) think they should be getting.

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BW lost some star players--Bayside remianed relatively stable, and the rays picked up some new players last fall which will lead to some of the players who have been with the rays and are no longer in the starting lineup to seek other teams. But it may be tough for some of the rays castoffs to find a spot on some other roster unless they look to BW or to some MA teams that have also had defections of star players like Explosion or Inter. These teams may be places to go for U14-15 players who have been seeing more bench time than they (or their parents) think they should be getting.

I'm not sure who is more obnoxious. The obviously disgruntled parent or this misguided fool.

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I'm not sure who is more obnoxious. The obviously disgruntled parent or this misguided fool.

I vote for the disgruntled parent as more obnoxious. THe misguided fool might just be a fool--perhaps he (or she) is not actually misguided and we may see what the fool predicts

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I vote for the disgruntled parent as more obnoxious. THe misguided fool might just be a fool--perhaps he (or she) is not actually misguided and we may see what the fool predicts

So you think you have the inside scoop?

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THere is already a well established path from rays to explosion

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THere is already a well established path from rays to explosion

Mostly for the same reasons as our disgruntled parent--bad coaching.....poor club organization.....no website......no one appreciates us.......el nino........blah blah blah

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Any truth to rumor that BW assistant coach taking 5 to 6 players to try out for scorps. coming from Scorp camp.

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Any truth to rumor that BW assistant coach taking 5 to 6 players to try out for scorps. coming from Scorp camp.

So it seems. BW may be back next year

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THere is already a well established path from rays to explosion

That makes more sense than ever with the star forward from Explosion going to another team.

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That makes more sense than ever with the star forward from Explosion going to another team.

seems we'll see more rays to explosion movement this year in these positions

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seems we'll see more rays to explosion movement this year in these positions

I doubt it. The few good players left will probably be staying with the Rays.

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seems we'll see more rays to explosion movement this year in these positions



Wrong--it will be Rays to Blackwatch. 2 players.

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Wrong--it will be Rays to Blackwatch. 2 players.

Is this in the u14? Forwards or Defenders?

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Is this in the u14? Forwards or Defenders?

yes and yes

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yes and yes

That's too bad. I guess to each his own. But why would you move down. Clearly the only reason Blackwatch ever did anything was because of some excellent talent that no longer exists there.

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That's too bad. I guess to each his own. But why would you move down. Clearly the only reason Blackwatch ever did anything was because of some excellent talent that no longer exists there.

Some players may have greater opportunities there

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Went onto a couple of clubs websites with the hope of finding that there would be coaching changes for the future U-16 girls. But I didn't see any. Will there be any changes? I sure hope so for the two teams that played in state cup.

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Went onto a couple of clubs websites with the hope of finding that there would be coaching changes for the future U-16 girls. But I didn't see any. Will there be any changes? I sure hope so for the two teams that played in state cup.

Why would you be concerned about both teams?

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Why would you be concerned about both teams?

Because everyone thinks RI is a joke and we need good coaches to move forward.

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Because everyone thinks RI is a joke and we need good coaches to move forward.

It's probably more complicated than just better coaching. Great coaching would make a difference but it wouldn't change the size of the talent pool.

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It's probably more complicated than just better coaching. Great coaching would make a difference but it wouldn't change the size of the talent pool.

These two teams have talent. The coaches have been with the team too long. The coaches did have but they can't bring the team to the next level, it's time for new coaches that will have fresh ideas and move forward.

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These two teams have talent. The coaches have been with the team too long. The coaches did have but they can't bring the team to the next level, it's time for new coaches that will have fresh ideas and move forward.

A coaching change every two years is probably always a good thing, no matter what.

It would also mix things up on the team. Many times a kid can get railroaded into a certain position or level because of stuff that happened many years ago.

But, be careful what you ask for.

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A coaching change every two years is probably always a good thing, no matter what.

It would also mix things up on the team. Many times a kid can get railroaded into a certain position or level because of stuff that happened many years ago.

But, be careful what you ask for.

Know parents and players on both team and they would all like a change. They think it will reed out some players that have been with the coaches too long and both coaches skill level is holding back the team. Neither team has seen much progression on skill level of the players who have been there awhile. But neither coach would leave both are two filled with them selves even if it would be best for the teams.

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Know parents and players on both team and they would all like a change. They think it will reed out some players that have been with the coaches too long and both coaches skill level is holding back the team. Neither team has seen much progression on skill level of the players who have been there awhile. But neither coach would leave both are two filled with them selves even if it would be best for the teams.

The coaches shouldn't have any say in the matter. The club should rotate the existing coaches within the system.

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The coaches shouldn't have any say in the matter. The club should rotate the existing coaches within the system.

That's a great idea. Change coaches every two years.

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Know parents and players on both team and they would all like a change. They think it will reed out some players that have been with the coaches too long and both coaches skill level is holding back the team. Neither team has seen much progression on skill level of the players who have been there awhile. But neither coach would leave both are two filled with them selves even if it would be best for the teams.

You're talking about U15 or U16 players. They are not going to get much better no matter what coach you have. They are who they are. The best coach in the world will not make your Run-Of-The-Mill players into skilled athletes. What the best coach would do is to get rid of all your kids and go get some good players. If that is what you want then go get yourself a new coach. "good players make a coach look good"

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How did the try outs go for BW last night Heard there were few quality players there last night.

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How did the try outs go for BW last night Heard there were few quality players there last night.

Is that what you heard?

Well this is what their Website said


"Thursday June 24. Due to severe weather alerts, tonight`s tryouts are cancelled. We have also posted new tryout times for Saturday so everyone can enjoy Team USA vs Ghana."

Who did you talk to?

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You're talking about U15 or U16 players. They are not going to get much better no matter what coach you have. They are who they are. The best coach in the world will not make your Run-Of-The-Mill players into skilled athletes. What the best coach would do is to get rid of all your kids and go get some good players. If that is what you want then go get yourself a new coach. "good players make a coach look good"

Is this what the coach said to you or was it daddy? Poor kid! Run along to summer school!

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Whats up with the rays this year? Went to tryouts this week and only eight kids showed up for U-12 tryouts and only two were actually the right age! U-14/15's only had three or four each as well. Pretty poor turnout considering this club is supposed to be the best in R.I. So it looks as if there will be no U-12 team this year at all and the older teams are stuck with the players who are already there. Not a good outlook if your looking to develop your daughter with this club.

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Whats up with the rays this year? Went to tryouts this week and only eight kids showed up for U-12 tryouts and only two were actually the right age! U-14/15's only had three or four each as well. Pretty poor turnout considering this club is supposed to be the best in R.I. So it looks as if there will be no U-12 team this year at all and the older teams are stuck with the players who are already there. Not a good outlook if your looking to develop your daughter with this club.

You and your family are among the most disingenuous people I have ever met. If you think you are fooling anyone with your anonymity, you're wrong. You are about at clueless as the rock you climb out from under every day. Just go away. No one is going to miss you.

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How did the try outs go for BW last night Heard there were few quality players there last night.

You heard wrong.

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Whats up with the rays this year? Went to tryouts this week and only eight kids showed up for U-12 tryouts and only two were actually the right age! U-14/15's only had three or four each as well. Pretty poor turnout considering this club is supposed to be the best in R.I. So it looks as if there will be no U-12 team this year at all and the older teams are stuck with the players who are already there. Not a good outlook if your looking to develop your daughter with this club.

Not a surprise. Clubs is in decline. They will not be around in 3 years

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So is BW there in trouble also, struggling to fill teams at a few age levels

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They are in so much trouble they have hired 3-4 new coaches for 2010-2011, doesn't sound like they are bearish on the club's prospects to me.

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On the boys side, it appears that Bayside has the strongest teams. Bruno has lost most of its best players. Black Watch is ok at some age groups, less than ok with others.

Lusitana had poor turnout at its tryouts last week, I'm told.

The new RI Soccer Club actually had a surprising number of boys and girls come to their tryouts a couple of weeks ago. Not sure how many actually committed to roster spots, but the coachhes named are very good and the price is right.

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Whats up with the rays this year? Went to tryouts this week and only eight kids showed up for U-12 tryouts and only two were actually the right age! U-14/15's only had three or four each as well. Pretty poor turnout considering this club is supposed to be the best in R.I. So it looks as if there will be no U-12 team this year at all and the older teams are stuck with the players who are already there. Not a good outlook if your looking to develop your daughter with this club.

Dennis--enough already

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Not a surprise. Clubs is in decline. They will not be around in 3 years

Actually, I heard the U14 rays dumped their team manager and are now poised for bigger and better things. Good luck at Bayside Dennis

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Not a surprise. Clubs is in decline. They will not be around in 3 years

I couldn't agree more. Rays are done!

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I couldn't agree more. Rays are done!

What you meant to say is "Rays are done...with Dennis"

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Who's Dennis?

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Who's Dennis?


A coward who couldn't scrape up the dignithy to travel with his team to the final tournament of the season in NJ. The other player who is also leaving the Rays was able to make it, and she will be missed. As for YOU Dennis, grow up and find something else to do with your time.

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A coward who couldn't scrape up the dignithy to travel with his team to the final tournament of the season in NJ. The other player who is also leaving the Rays was able to make it, and she will be missed. As for YOU Dennis, grow up and find something else to do with your time.

This is the same guy who stabbed Bayside in the back a few years ago. Look out Bruno--you're getting a guy who has little to offer but expects a lot.

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On the boys side, it appears that Bayside has the strongest teams. Bruno has lost most of its best players. Black Watch is ok at some age groups, less than ok with others.

Lusitana had poor turnout at its tryouts last week, I'm told.

The new RI Soccer Club actually had a surprising number of boys and girls come to their tryouts a couple of weeks ago. Not sure how many actually committed to roster spots, but the coachhes named are very good and the price is right.

What is the website for RI Soccer Club? Never heard of it and want to check it out.

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What is the website for RI Soccer Club? Never heard of it and want to check it out.

www.rhodeislandsoccerclub.com/

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On the boys side, it appears that Bayside has the strongest teams. Bruno has lost most of its best players. Black Watch is ok at some age groups, less than ok with others.

Lusitana had poor turnout at its tryouts last week, I'm told.

The new RI Soccer Club actually had a surprising number of boys and girls come to their tryouts a couple of weeks ago. Not sure how many actually committed to roster spots, but the coachhes named are very good and the price is right.

Who are the very good coaches?

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Not going to name names on this or any other message board. Contact RISC directly to find out their coaches names. All I will say is that the founder of the club is one of the top high school soccer coaches in RI and he is committed to having quality coaches for every RISC team. My son played for the RISC U14 team this past spring and his coach was terrific. Great experience for him.

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Not going to name names on this or any other message board. Contact RISC directly to find out their coaches names. All I will say is that the founder of the club is one of the top high school soccer coaches in RI and he is committed to having quality coaches for every RISC team. My son played for the RISC U14 team this past spring and his coach was terrific. Great experience for him.

Any girls teams last year?

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No girls teams last year. RISC held tryouts for girls team a couple of weeks ago, but I am unsure if any will actually be formed. They had 20-25 U12/U13 girls trying out and probably 15-20 U10/U11's there. However, most of the girls trying out were also trying out for other premier clubs and/or town association teams - predominantly Lincoln YSA. We'll see what comes out of it.

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No girls teams last year. RISC held tryouts for girls team a couple of weeks ago, but I am unsure if any will actually be formed. They had 20-25 U12/U13 girls trying out and probably 15-20 U10/U11's there. However, most of the girls trying out were also trying out for other premier clubs and/or town association teams - predominantly Lincoln YSA. We'll see what comes out of it.

We probably don't need even more dilution anyway.

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You can call it "dilution". I call it "choices". As a parent, I like having choices where my kids play soccer.

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No girls teams last year. RISC held tryouts for girls team a couple of weeks ago, but I am unsure if any will actually be formed. They had 20-25 U12/U13 girls trying out and probably 15-20 U10/U11's there. However, most of the girls trying out were also trying out for other premier clubs and/or town association teams - predominantly Lincoln YSA. We'll see what comes out of it.


They had 20-25 u12-u13 girls tryout? How did these girls find out about the tryouts? They have this huge turnout (for a RI club with no girls track record) and they are not going to form any teams? Come on! If you are going to make stuff up at least do a better job than that

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Dude, I was there - my daughter went to all of the RISC tryout sessions. The tryouts were advertised in the Valley Breeze for a month. A lot of local northern RI girls went to the tryouts to see what it was all about. Spots have been offered - not sure how many girls have committed.

We're still waiting to hear if in fact there will be a team or not. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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Dude, I was there - my daughter went to all of the RISC tryout sessions. The tryouts were advertised in the Valley Breeze for a month. A lot of local northern RI girls went to the tryouts to see what it was all about. Spots have been offered - not sure how many girls have committed.

We're still waiting to hear if in fact there will be a team or not. I'll let you know how it turns out.

If you are serious I am shocked. most of the other clubs (clubs with established girls teams at the upper levels) had fairly poor turnout for that age groups.

What was the upper age group level for the girls? u13 or older?

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You can call it "dilution". I call it "choices". As a parent, I like having choices where my kids play soccer.

I like having choices as well. But due to all the "choices" there is dilution. Too many of the teams are basically getting just enough kids to fill a team showing up for try-outs.

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You can call it "dilution". I call it "choices". As a parent, I like having choices where my kids play soccer.

This is what is wrong with RI soccer. There are not 18 very good players (boys or girls) in any age group to have 1 really good team let alone 5 or 6. RI soccer will never be taken seriously and RI players will never considered good players when there are so many choices. Lets have 5 or 6 premier teams just so you can say your daughter plays for a premier team. That makes a lot of sense. Good luck being bad forever.

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This is what is wrong with RI soccer. There are not 18 very good players (boys or girls) in any age group to have 1 really good team let alone 5 or 6. RI soccer will never be taken seriously and RI players will never considered good players when there are so many choices. Lets have 5 or 6 premier teams just so you can say your daughter plays for a premier team. That makes a lot of sense. Good luck being bad forever.

I've always thought that a better solution would to have bigger clubs with multiple teams per age group.

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Who's Dennis?

Dennis--I know that guy. He is now Bruno's problem. If you are associated in any way with managing Bruno Soccer Club, you will want to seriously reconsider bringing DM to your team.

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Here's the latest ... I just got an email tonight from RISC telling me that their entire girls program has been scrapped.

Reading between the lines (and talking to parents in the know), it appears that a prominent coach from another RI premier club decided NOT to join RISC after all. With this decision, many of his girls who were at RISC tryouts are staying with this coach at their original club. Simply put, there weren't enough girls to form even a single girls team.

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Like anything else in youth travel sports, it's all about supply and demand. If there's enough demand for 10 teams, then 10 teams will be formed. If there's only enough demand for 5 teams, then 5 teams will be formed. Regardless of how hard they try, SRI authorities cannot regulate supply and demand. Ultimately, parents will find places for their kids to play that are the best fit for their respective kids.

The better players generally will gravitate to the most successful (meaning: winningest) teams because that's where their parents will want them to play. Parents of talented players want their kids to play with other talented players.

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Here's the latest ... I just got an email tonight from RISC telling me that their entire girls program has been scrapped.

Reading between the lines (and talking to parents in the know), it appears that a prominent coach from another RI premier club decided NOT to join RISC after all. With this decision, many of his girls who were at RISC tryouts are staying with this coach at their original club. Simply put, there weren't enough girls to form even a single girls team.

That's what I thought would happen.

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Sounds you knew more about the situation than I did.

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Sounds you knew more about the situation than I did.

Probably not much more. I just know a number of people that would have been interested, and there are not that many. I also have seen that the established local clubs do not have people knocking down their doors to get a spot.

Rhode Island could be a regional powerhouse but not by adding more clubs. Only by merging a number of clubs and having multiple teams per age group would we be really competitive.

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I completely understand what you are saying about having fewer clubs with more teams. but knowing what I know about parents of kids who play travel sports, nobody wants their kid playing on the B team. personally, I'd open things up and let the market dictate where kids gravitate to. In no time, the top players will move to the winningest team, the next tier of kids to the 2nd best team, etc.

There will always be a new club forming because the nature of youth travel sports is that there is always a perceived need for a new club by dissatisfied parents. and there is never a shortage of dissatisfied parents in youth travel sports.

I'll offer this analogy: New England AAU baseball has grown from 100 to 500 teams in the last 5 years. But there are really only 2-3 teams in each age group that have all the top players. Same thing would happen with club soccer. (Incidentally, 2 of the top 3 clubs in NEAAU are from RI, so maybe size of state has nothing to do with it? maybe it's quality - and price - of the club?)

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Well-made point. Besides, what difference does it make? If your kid is a superstar, believe me the MASS super clubs will find him/her. The whole point of this is supposed to be fun first an at the same time development. After that it is a bunch of us (adults) getting involved in a kids game. People love to assert that somehow there is this huge pool of talent that gets over looked because their parents can't afford Premier. There are enough avenues for kids to be seen that if the kid is good enough, they will rise to the top and be seen. If your complaint about the state of US Soccer is that the players aren’t good enough, you maybe right, but consider this. If you were a 6'5" GK/BB player, what would your first sport choice be? Soccer or BB? It would be basketball, more scholarships, more opportunity to play professionally in US and abroad. There are maybe 12-15 players in the Major European Leagues (not including the second or third tier leagues) There are a few hundred US players playing BB in European pro leagues.

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Probably not much more. I just know a number of people that would have been interested, and there are not that many. I also have seen that the established local clubs do not have people knocking down their doors to get a spot.

Rhode Island could be a regional powerhouse but not by adding more clubs. Only by merging a number of clubs and having multiple teams per age group would we be really competitive.

For boys, Bayside is pretty well established as "the" team to be on for RI players, much like rays have shown to be for girls. YOu won't get a flood of new players at tryouts since the teams are established and might only be lookiing to fill a spot or two from players that get shaken loose after a season and look for spots on the lesser teams in RI

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For boys, Bayside is pretty well established as "the" team to be on for RI players, much like rays have shown to be for girls. YOu won't get a flood of new players at tryouts since the teams are established and might only be lookiing to fill a spot or two from players that get shaken loose after a season and look for spots on the lesser teams in RI

There are alwyas those who look for a new team due to low playing time or whatever, and this is why RISC would have been nice.

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For boys, Bayside is pretty well established as "the" team to be on for RI players, much like rays have shown to be for girls. YOu won't get a flood of new players at tryouts since the teams are established and might only be lookiing to fill a spot or two from players that get shaken loose after a season and look for spots on the lesser teams in RI

Rays Bayside BW all still have tryouts so these teams continue to take players but are mostly set in the core age groups. Then there are also the strong town teams like Bristol which played in Maple and did fairly well, but they never played any of the big 3 from RI

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Rays Bayside BW all still have tryouts so these teams continue to take players but are mostly set in the core age groups. Then there are also the strong town teams like Bristol which played in Maple and did fairly well, but they never played any of the big 3 from RI

Another strong town team is South County. THey appear in the state cup playoffs. while they cannot compete with rays etc on a regular basis, they may soon get to that point. some south county players will try to move onto different rays age ba=racket teams next year and shoudl see some make the teams

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I completely understand what you are saying about having fewer clubs with more teams. but knowing what I know about parents of kids who play travel sports, nobody wants their kid playing on the B team. personally, I'd open things up and let the market dictate where kids gravitate to. In no time, the top players will move to the winningest team, the next tier of kids to the 2nd best team, etc.

There will always be a new club forming because the nature of youth travel sports is that there is always a perceived need for a new club by dissatisfied parents. and there is never a shortage of dissatisfied parents in youth travel sports.

I'll offer this analogy: New England AAU baseball has grown from 100 to 500 teams in the last 5 years. But there are really only 2-3 teams in each age group that have all the top players. Same thing would happen with club soccer. (Incidentally, 2 of the top 3 clubs in NEAAU are from RI, so maybe size of state has nothing to do with it? maybe it's quality - and price - of the club?)

Some of what you say is true some is proven false. Parents definitely don't want their kid to play on the "B" team. I probably fit in there but for better training, the "B" team would be ok. The fact is that the best players have not gravitated to the best RI team. The very best players have been recruited away to the better Ma. teams. The reason for that is because we do not have a strong enough team and program to support the very best players. The remaining good players are spread out through all the other teams.

One thing for sure is that Rhode Islanders prefer to be the Big Fish, so what you might consider to be a natural stratification doesn't happen. In a system with fewer clubs, the better players would rise up through the ranks ( I'm sure that there wouldn't be any political movement ).

I know that it will never happen, but just imagine how strong RI would be with only a couple of programs.

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Another strong town team is South County. THey appear in the state cup playoffs. while they cannot compete with rays etc on a regular basis, they may soon get to that point. some south county players will try to move onto different rays age ba=racket teams next year and shoudl see some make the teams

south county sponsors the excellent seaside classic which unfortunately the RI premier teams seem to not attend. you might get bruno or tidal wave but thats it. RI would do itself a favor to have the best teams appear in this excellent tournament

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south county sponsors the excellent seaside classic which unfortunately the RI premier teams seem to not attend. you might get bruno or tidal wave but thats it. RI would do itself a favor to have the best teams appear in this excellent tournament

Rays have concluded their season in a torunament oin new jersey. Bayside is off to regional championships in WV. Not sure about tidal wave or bruno if their programs support anything this late in the season. THey may not be appearing this year but they are actually also premier teams.

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Well-made point. Besides, what difference does it make? If your kid is a superstar, believe me the MASS super clubs will find him/her. The whole point of this is supposed to be fun first an at the same time development. After that it is a bunch of us (adults) getting involved in a kids game. People love to assert that somehow there is this huge pool of talent that gets over looked because their parents can't afford Premier. There are enough avenues for kids to be seen that if the kid is good enough, they will rise to the top and be seen. If your complaint about the state of US Soccer is that the players aren’t good enough, you maybe right, but consider this. If you were a 6'5" GK/BB player, what would your first sport choice be? Soccer or BB? It would be basketball, more scholarships, more opportunity to play professionally in US and abroad. There are maybe 12-15 players in the Major European Leagues (not including the second or third tier leagues) There are a few hundred US players playing BB in European pro leagues.

Couldn't agree more, part 1 - if the kid is a stud, then they (the big Mass premier clubs, private high schools, colleges, etc.) will find him/her. Yes, they will. Every time. Even if they play for an average team.

Couldn't agree more, part 2 - the whole point of this is -YES - that it's supposed to be fun. Sometimes I don't get the whole "player development/training" marketing that premier clubs have. From my experience, the kids have the most fun when they are experiencing success on the field during games (i.e. winning) with their teammates/friends. They have fun during training when it doesn't seem like work. They have fun when they are competing at a level where they belong. They don't have fun when a drill seargent coach is yelling at them while they run, run, run.

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I have always found it interesting how certain RI town programs have been able to keep their talented kids in-house and not lose too many of them to the clubs. South County (for boys mostly), Bristol (for girls mostly), Portsmouth come to mind immediately. Their teams playing in SuperLiga Anchor divisions are right up there with most (but not all) RI premier teams.

IMO, the growth of the number of premier clubs/teams in RI is directly correlated to the poor organization/coaching/administration/motivation of the town programs (the exceptions are mentioned above). I often wonder why the town programs - in conjunction with their middle school and high school coaches - don't figure out a way to offer a premier club experience at a town program price. I mean, the town programs have so many economic advantages over clubs - free field usage, numerous parent volunteers, other town resources particularly school dept. and parks and rec employees.

Wouldn't the school coaches want to keep their talented players playing together? Isn't the kids' first preference to play with their friends?

Here's something to ponder -- the 2009 RI boys middle school state champion was Lincoln Middle School. Of the 17 boys on the LMS team, just 1 - the starting goalkeeper - played for LYSA's competitive program. The rest played for Bruno, Black Watch, RISC, Lusitana. Anyone who saw that team play knew how great they truly were. If they had all played for LYSA's U14 boys team, LYSA would have won the state cup this spring.

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south county sponsors the excellent seaside classic which unfortunately the RI premier teams seem to not attend. you might get bruno or tidal wave but thats it. RI would do itself a favor to have the best teams appear in this excellent tournament

Some of that has to do with Regionals. The physical an emotional grind of going to WV and playing some Very high class (talent wise) teams can be alot. I think the timing of Seaside has as much to do with it as anything.

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Good point...it would sure save parents a lot of money if the town associations could get their act together.

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Couldn't agree more, part 1 - if the kid is a stud, then they (the big Mass premier clubs, private high schools, colleges, etc.) will find him/her. Yes, they will. Every time. Even if they play for an average team.

Couldn't agree more, part 2 - the whole point of this is -YES - that it's supposed to be fun. Sometimes I don't get the whole "player development/training" marketing that premier clubs have. From my experience, the kids have the most fun when they are experiencing success on the field during games (i.e. winning) with their teammates/friends. They have fun during training when it doesn't seem like work. They have fun when they are competing at a level where they belong. They don't have fun when a drill seargent coach is yelling at them while they run, run, run.


Mutual admiration society is in session. Completely agree. Don’t we all enjoy work more when it is fun and doesn’t feel like work? From experience with my kid, If your kid stops improving or stagnates, guaranteed they stopped having fun, stopped working hard and trying hard due to something a coach (or maybe a team mate, parent too) said or did.

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I have always found it interesting how certain RI town programs have been able to keep their talented kids in-house and not lose too many of them to the clubs. South County (for boys mostly), Bristol (for girls mostly), Portsmouth come to mind immediately. Their teams playing in SuperLiga Anchor divisions are right up there with most (but not all) RI premier teams.

IMO, the growth of the number of premier clubs/teams in RI is directly correlated to the poor organization/coaching/administration/motivation of the town programs (the exceptions are mentioned above). I often wonder why the town programs - in conjunction with their middle school and high school coaches - don't figure out a way to offer a premier club experience at a town program price. I mean, the town programs have so many economic advantages over clubs - free field usage, numerous parent volunteers, other town resources particularly school dept. and parks and rec employees.

Wouldn't the school coaches want to keep their talented players playing together? Isn't the kids' first preference to play with their friends?

Here's something to ponder -- the 2009 RI boys middle school state champion was Lincoln Middle School. Of the 17 boys on the LMS team, just 1 - the starting goalkeeper - played for LYSA's competitive program. The rest played for Bruno, Black Watch, RISC, Lusitana. Anyone who saw that team play knew how great they truly were. If they had all played for LYSA's U14 boys team, LYSA would have won the state cup this spring.


I am not saying you are wrong, but could it be that the reason they were so good is because all the boys we able to get a higher level of competition and coaching in Premier?

Just as a side note, Cole in EG won for the girls and most if not all of them play for Bayside or Rays. So I think we may have a chicken and egg thing going on here.

Bottom line, put your kid where they fit best, Play town, tryout for a couple Premier teams. Your kid may play premier for a year and hate it, it isnt for everyone. Lots of kids play both. No one size fits all.

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Here's something to ponder -- the 2009 RI boys middle school state champion was Lincoln Middle School. Of the 17 boys on the LMS team, just 1 - the starting goalkeeper - played for LYSA's competitive program. The rest played for Bruno, Black Watch, RISC, Lusitana. Anyone who saw that team play knew how great they truly were. If they had all played for LYSA's U14 boys team, LYSA would have won the state cup this spring.

Interesting idea, but how would they be without the excellent training they get on their Club teams.

Town teams will practice maybe once a week during the playing season. Premier teams practice 3 times a week, have scrimmages when they need to and have coaches that know what they are doing. Not that a parent coach is all bad, it's just not nearly as good, and for a lot of reasons.

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I am not saying you are wrong, but could it be that the reason they were so good is because all the boys we able to get a higher level of competition and coaching in Premier?

Just as a side note, Cole in EG won for the girls and most if not all of them play for Bayside or Rays. So I think we may have a chicken and egg thing going on here.

Bottom line, put your kid where they fit best, Play town, tryout for a couple Premier teams. Your kid may play premier for a year and hate it, it isnt for everyone. Lots of kids play both. No one size fits all.

What I am saying is exactly that - the reason LMS was so good was exactly because all the boys played premier. My point is that it's too bad that the town programs don't offer what the premier clubs offer. If the level of competition, coaching, facilities were the same between clubs and towns - then it would save parents a ton of money to stay with the town program.

It would also bring a certain level of pride to the community in that "our town's U12's won the RI State Cup - good luck at regionals" similar to what happens when a town's Little League all-star team wins the states and goes to regionals and perhaps the LL World Series. Face it, when a club team is made up of kids from 6 different towns, they're playing for only their parents and themselves, not for a single community.

It's wishful thinking I believe. Premier clubs carry status.

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Interesting idea, but how would they be without the excellent training they get on their Club teams.

Town teams will practice maybe once a week during the playing season. Premier teams practice 3 times a week, have scrimmages when they need to and have coaches that know what they are doing. Not that a parent coach is all bad, it's just not nearly as good, and for a lot of reasons.

Ok, but why couldn't a town program have its competitive teams practice 3 times a week, hire professional coaches that know what they are doing, etc. ???

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Interesting idea, but how would they be without the excellent training they get on their Club teams.

Town teams will practice maybe once a week during the playing season. Premier teams practice 3 times a week, have scrimmages when they need to and have coaches that know what they are doing. Not that a parent coach is all bad, it's just not nearly as good, and for a lot of reasons.

Town programs just don't do it that way. Could they? maybe. Do they? Nope.

I've got 3 kids and all 3 play for premier clubs. Why? Because our town association runs its competitive program like a rec program.

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Ok, but why couldn't a town program have its competitive teams practice 3 times a week, hire professional coaches that know what they are doing, etc. ???

Because then it would cost 3x as much and kids from other towns would try to get in if your town team was doing better then theirs. It would be premier by another name.

I think there is a place for both. Town looses its apeal when it takes on the trappings of Premier.

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Because then it would cost 3x as much and kids from other towns would try to get in if your town team was doing better then theirs. It would be premier by another name.

I think there is a place for both. Town looses its apeal when it takes on the trappings of Premier.

This was all in response to the post regarding the LYSA middle school team being able to win the state cup as an LYSA team. And clearly the answer to that quote is that, No, they would not win without the training they have received from their respective Premier teams. LYSA can't and won't.

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Agree 100%.

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Agree 100%.

There is a similar thread on the MA board about the winner of the MTOC beating the winner of MA State Cup at gu14. Not going to happen in MA, not going to happen in RI, at lease not above U12 8 v.8.

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Stacey DeCastro of Bayside United SD is seeking U-11 / U12 boys for his newly formed team.

Anyone interested can contact Stacey at sdecastro10@comcast.net.

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Stacey DeCastro of Bayside United SD is seeking U-11 / U12 boys for his newly formed team.

Anyone interested can contact Stacey at sdecastro10@comcast.net.

Stacey,

Your club is a joke, stop annoying people, you started your own thread, stay on it.

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Uhhh, Stacey,....you're a little late to the tryout scene. Most clubs held their tryouts 2 weeks ago.

On that note, I noticed online that Bruno is holding an extra tryout for their boys U14's on July 8th. Poor attendance first time around?

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we'll be trying out for the u14 rays (they'll be the u15 rays next spring)

looking at their record, they appear to be the best team in ri at this time

when one measures the success of a team by wins and losses alone, one hasn't a clue about the goal of a program

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I hear rhode island soccer club had an awesome turnout and have added some teams. If i am correct they are now fielding boys in the following age groups ... U10; u12, u13, u14, u15 and u18.... I also was told that they have some great coaches and some partnership with the new england revolution academy which gives all the members a week long acadeny training and this is included in the club tuition!!!

I also know that they were very selective with offering roster spots and have 1-2 spots that they left open should they see or be approached by talented players ... I think the u12 and u13 teams each have 1-2 spots. A neighbor of mine inquired and was told to send an email to risoccer@cox.net if interested ...

I hope this helps

cheers

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they had 20-25 u12-u13 girls tryout? How did these girls find out about the tryouts? They have this huge turnout (for a ri club with no girls track record) and they are not going to form any teams? Come on! If you are going to make stuff up at least do a better job than that



i was there and the numbers are accurate --- issue was many of the kids were there looking for a free ride

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when one measures the success of a team by wins and losses alone, one hasn't a clue about the goal of a program

It depends on what is the best fit...some programs are training oriented, some are results oriented. There's a market out there for both types of programs.

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when one measures the success of a team by wins and losses alone, one hasn't a clue about the goal of a program


Dear Clueless,

At the U14 level, Player development and winning really do go start to go hand in hand. At some point the programs that will try to "win at all cost" will stop winning because the well trained team will just out finesse them and make them look silly. If this wasn't the case then player development would have absolutely no value.

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They had 20-25 u12-u13 girls tryout? How did these girls find out about the tryouts? They have this huge turnout (for a RI club with no girls track record) and they are not going to form any teams? Come on! If you are going to make stuff up at least do a better job than that

Probably exaggerated a bit. They probably had 15-20 or even if they had the 25, that's not enough to field two teams. Who wants to play on a U13 team where half the kids are playing up?

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Probably exaggerated a bit. They probably had 15-20 or even if they had the 25, that's not enough to field two teams. Who wants to play on a U13 team where half the kids are playing up?

No, they had about 25 all together. Half were from Black Watch and half were from Lincoln YSA. What happened was that there was word going around that the prominent BW girls coach was coming over to RISC. So, a lot of excitement was generated locally (RISC is based out of Lincoln). When the BW coach ultimately stayed with BW, the BW girls stayed with him at BW, too. The Lincoln girls stayed with LYSA for 2 reasons, I'm told; 1) money, 2) RISC didn't have a coach for girls teams.

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Dear Clueless,

At the U14 level, Player development and winning really do go start to go hand in hand. At some point the programs that will try to "win at all cost" will stop winning because the well trained team will just out finesse them and make them look silly. If this wasn't the case then player development would have absolutely no value.

The teams that win are the teams that are perceived by parents as being the best at player development. The teams that win are ultimately going to attract the best players.

Club officials can make all the claims in the world about their club having the best training and development. But if they don't any win games, nobody is going to believe them. The best players will gravitate to the best teams.

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No, they had about 25 all together. Half were from Black Watch and half were from Lincoln YSA. What happened was that there was word going around that the prominent BW girls coach was coming over to RISC. So, a lot of excitement was generated locally (RISC is based out of Lincoln). When the BW coach ultimately stayed with BW, the BW girls stayed with him at BW, too. The Lincoln girls stayed with LYSA for 2 reasons, I'm told; 1) money, 2) RISC didn't have a coach for girls teams.

Maybe enough kids in one of the age groups to field a team. Though I am impressed that the Lincoln group showed up at all. LYSA is very Anti-Premier.

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The teams that win are the teams that are perceived by parents as being the best at player development. The teams that win are ultimately going to attract the best players.

Club officials can make all the claims in the world about their club having the best training and development. But if they don't any win games, nobody is going to believe them. The best players will gravitate to the best teams.

I agree.

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I hear rhode island soccer club had an awesome turnout and have added some teams. If i am correct they are now fielding boys in the following age groups ... U10; u12, u13, u14, u15 and u18.... I also was told that they have some great coaches and some partnership with the new england revolution academy which gives all the members a week long acadeny training and this is included in the club tuition!!!

I also know that they were very selective with offering roster spots and have 1-2 spots that they left open should they see or be approached by talented players ... I think the u12 and u13 teams each have 1-2 spots. A neighbor of mine inquired and was told to send an email to risoccer@cox.net if interested ...

I hope this helps

cheers

Nice Sales pitch DM if the coaches are so good why dont they list them on the website. And anyone can have the revs come run a training session if the price is right.

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Maybe enough kids in one of the age groups to field a team. Though I am impressed that the Lincoln group showed up at all. LYSA is very Anti-Premier.

LYSA maybe anti-premier, but the town of Lincoln isn't. On the boys side, virtually all of the talented Lincoln boys play for premier clubs. On the girls side, LYSA has managed to keep a fair amount of the talented Lincoln girls in the LYSA competitive program - largely because of 3-4 charismatic coaches that both parents and girls rally around.

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LYSA maybe anti-premier, but the town of Lincoln isn't. On the boys side, virtually all of the talented Lincoln boys play for premier clubs. On the girls side, LYSA has managed to keep a fair amount of the talented Lincoln girls in the LYSA competitive program - largely because of 3-4 charismatic coaches that both parents and girls rally around.


It seems like the Girls U12 group is pretty good. Any others still going strong?

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It seems like the Girls U12 group is pretty good. Any others still going strong?

Girls U12 group is very good, you're right. Girls U10's pretty good, too. The Dad's who have been coaching those girls over the past 3-4 years have a done a very good job. Very passionate, very knowledgable guys.

From what I understand, there's a very strong group of U8's in Lincoln, too.

On the boys side, not so much. Lost most of the talented players - and, of course, their passionate Moms and Dads - to premier clubs.

That's what hurts town associations so much when the talented players move to clubs. The town not only loses the kids, they lose the parents, too. And it's those parents of talented players who usually are most willing to give their time and energy - coaching, fund-raising, volunteering - to their kid's soccer program.

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Girls U12 group is very good, you're right. Girls U10's pretty good, too. The Dad's who have been coaching those girls over the past 3-4 years have a done a very good job. Very passionate, very knowledgable guys.

From what I understand, there's a very strong group of U8's in Lincoln, too.

On the boys side, not so much. Lost most of the talented players - and, of course, their passionate Moms and Dads - to premier clubs.

That's what hurts town associations so much when the talented players move to clubs. The town not only loses the kids, they lose the parents, too. And it's those parents of talented players who usually are most willing to give their time and energy - coaching, fund-raising, volunteering - to their kid's soccer program.



The parent coaching has its good and bad. Entire age groups can be ruined by a bad choice of parent coach that moves up with the group. I've seen some really good guys just be horrible coaches, either through a lack of knowledge or commitment. The kids that stick around eventually loose interest and the better kids go elsewhere.

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The parent coaching has its good and bad. Entire age groups can be ruined by a bad choice of parent coach that moves up with the group. I've seen some really good guys just be horrible coaches, either through a lack of knowledge or commitment. The kids that stick around eventually loose interest and the better kids go elsewhere.

My 2 cents on parent coaches - assuming the parent-coach has some soccer knowledge ...

The good: Parent coaches typically have a higher level of passion for the game and their team. They will show up at every game and practice. They will do the extra things to make the season more enjoyable for everyone. I have seen situations where paid coaches with no children on the team "mail it in" and do the bare minimum to collect a check.

The bad: Favortism of the parent-coach's kid. In baseball, we call this "Daddyball". The parent-coach opens themselves up to this the minute they accept the coaching job. Typically, if the parent-coach's kid is one of the top players on the team, it's a better situation because that kid's playing time is a given. If the parent-coach's kid is one of the marginal players, then typically the team will become an even-playing-time entity.

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My 2 cents on parent coaches - assuming the parent-coach has some soccer knowledge ...

The good: Parent coaches typically have a higher level of passion for the game and their team. They will show up at every game and practice. They will do the extra things to make the season more enjoyable for everyone. I have seen situations where paid coaches with no children on the team "mail it in" and do the bare minimum to collect a check.

The bad: Favortism of the parent-coach's kid. In baseball, we call this "Daddyball". The parent-coach opens themselves up to this the minute they accept the coaching job. Typically, if the parent-coach's kid is one of the top players on the team, it's a better situation because that kid's playing time is a given. If the parent-coach's kid is one of the marginal players, then typically the team will become an even-playing-time entity.

You seem to have absolutely no experience with pro coaches.

Parent coaches typically are clueless about the game. They are there so their kid gets to play more than they would with any other coach. (or at least that is what happens ) Parent coaches work full time and have other interests too. They may have one practice every week. A typical parent practice is a waste of time.

Pro coaches will have 2-3 practices per week. Will plan a series or two along with a number of tournaments. Most parent coaches do the minimum.

My personal experience with parent coaches is that they are great guys but terrible coaches. Of course their kid will be a forward and get a ton of playing time. But the biggest problem is that if there is any training at all it will be second rate at best.

Even the best town team can not compete with a premier team. A big part of difference is the amount and quality of training. Of course their are some excellent and committed parent coaches out there but for the most part they are not doing a great job.

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Nice Sales pitch DM if the coaches are so good why dont they list them on the website. And anyone can have the revs come run a training session if the price is right.

Virtually every coach at RISC is a Dad.

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Virtually every coach at RISC is a Dad.

That is such a bad thing and on so many levels.

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Any changes in coaches on the girls side for the top U-15 and U-16 girls club teams?

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There is already a well established path from rays to explosion

What well established path are you talking about? I know of only one former Rays player playing for Explosion and they left on good terms. Which explosion team do all these Rays players play for.

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Any changes in coaches on the girls side for the top U-15 and U-16 girls club teams?

What are you fishing for?

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What are you fishing for?

Fishing for new coaches.

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You're AN IDIOT .... you're kid must suck and you are bitter.

What part isn't true? And don't say "all of it" because that will make you look really stupid. Maybe I can introduce my kid to you so you can tell him/her that they suck.

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Virtually every coach at RISC is a Dad.


Because the reason for RISC is that it's the farm team for Victor and the high school team.

By using dads he gets to pocket more of the nearly 2k parents will fork over to play there.

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Because the reason for RISC is that it's the farm team for Victor and the high school team.

By using dads he gets to pocket more of the nearly 2k parents will fork over to play there.

That is an unbelievable cheap shot - and flat-out lie - about the best, most honest guy I know in the RI soccer community. Nobody is making a cent at RISC, least of all Victor. Your post is the most damaging personal thing I have ever seen here. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

By the way, RISC fees are 60% of what you quote. On top of being thoughtless, you're clueless.

Trust me, VA tried for years to work through LYSA. That was like banging his head against a wall. The reason he started up RISC was to create a better competitive soccer alternative than what was out there. I'm glad he did it.

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and by the way, the Dad coaches that RISC does have (on only 3 of the 6 teams) are EXCELLENT coaches - including Victor.

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Because the reason for RISC is that it's the farm team for Victor and the high school team.

By using dads he gets to pocket more of the nearly 2k parents will fork over to play there.

I don't have a problem with creating a farm team for the high school team in addition to having another option for families in soccer.

If you're careful, a mix of parent and pro coaching could work great. Most of the parent coaches we see involved in town soccer really don't know how to get from point "A" to point "B". And many don't know what point "B" is.

I have seen a few parent coaches that are great and if it can reduce the cost of premier soccer then that is a good thing.

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That is an unbelievable cheap shot - and flat-out lie - about the best, most honest guy I know in the RI soccer community. Nobody is making a cent at RISC, least of all Victor. Your post is the most damaging personal thing I have ever seen here. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

By the way, RISC fees are 60% of what you quote. On top of being thoughtless, you're clueless.

Trust me, VA tried for years to work through LYSA. That was like banging his head against a wall. The reason he started up RISC was to create a better competitive soccer alternative than what was out there. I'm glad he did it.

You're obviously very passionate about RISC. I just hope they are charging enough to keep their heads above water. Is RISC what made the LYSA boys teams basically go away?

Are they planning anything to save the girls in LYSA?

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You're obviously very passionate about RISC. I just hope they are charging enough to keep their heads above water. Is RISC what made the LYSA boys teams basically go away?

Are they planning anything to save the girls in LYSA?

I'm more passionate about defending a friend of mine who has been called out by name for doing something that he would never, ever do.

LYSA is what made LYSA boys teams go away. The talented boys in Lincoln had left LYSA competitive program years before RISC ever came around.

LYSA appointed coaches to their competitive boys teams that nobody wanted to play for. LYSA was inflexible for boys who wanted to participate in other sports.

If anything, BV United did more damage to LYSA boys teams than RISC ever did. The boys were long gone by then.

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I'm more passionate about defending a friend of mine who has been called out by name for doing something that he would never, ever do.

LYSA is what made LYSA boys teams go away. The talented boys in Lincoln had left LYSA competitive program years before RISC ever came around.

LYSA appointed coaches to their competitive boys teams that nobody wanted to play for. LYSA was inflexible for boys who wanted to participate in other sports.

If anything, BV United did more damage to LYSA boys teams than RISC ever did. The boys were long gone by then.

The poster that ,edit> ticked </edit> you off did present his/her opinion in a very negative way. I don't know the first thing about RISC but I also don't have a problem with someone making money by providing an excellent service. In fact I think that it is absolutely necessary that people spending an inordinate amount of their time should get paid.

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Is RISC cheaper than Bayside, Blackwatch and Bruno, Rays, Explosion, and Tidal Wave?

What is the total cost for the year including tournaments and uniform?

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Is RISC cheaper than Bayside, Blackwatch and Bruno, Rays, Explosion, and Tidal Wave?

What is the total cost for the year including tournaments and uniform?

An earlier poster suggested it is $1200. Not expensive or cheap.

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An earlier poster suggested it is $1200. Not expensive or cheap.

Who really cares what RISC charges to play?? They charge what they think they can get, they have whatever coached they think will help them and enable them to attract players for what they charge, and they do whatever it is they want with the money they bring in..... If you do not like any of the above then you don't try out, it's pretty much that simple. Some people seem to confuse Premier with Town soccer. It's not your right to play for a club, tell them who should coach, how much they should charge and what they do with their money. The only right you have is to agree with a club philosophy and decide to try out for them. If you can't afford it too bad! If you don't like the coaches too bad! If you think they should charge less, too bad. If the club does things the wrong way they will fade into the sunset. So stop complaining already.

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Who really cares what RISC charges to play?? They charge what they think they can get, they have whatever coached they think will help them and enable them to attract players for what they charge, and they do whatever it is they want with the money they bring in..... If you do not like any of the above then you don't try out, it's pretty much that simple. Some people seem to confuse Premier with Town soccer. It's not your right to play for a club, tell them who should coach, how much they should charge and what they do with their money. The only right you have is to agree with a club philosophy and decide to try out for them. If you can't afford it too bad! If you don't like the coaches too bad! If you think they should charge less, too bad. If the club does things the wrong way they will fade into the sunset. So stop complaining already.

Who cares? Just about anyone that might be interested in joining RISC. Don't you think?

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Who cares? Just about anyone that might be interested in joining RISC. Don't you think?

My son's friend plays there and it's like $1700+ for the year.

Around $1100 to play and then separate fees for tournaments $300+ and uniform $300+ .

They went 1-6 in Maple this past spring.

For that much money we'll stay in Cumberland.

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Who cares? Just about anyone that might be interested in joining RISC. Don't you think?

Good point.

I see both sides of this argument.

On one hand, you've got a club's customers (parents) who want to know what they're paying for - what value their dollars are buying for their kid's soccer year. It's a fair request.

On the other hand, the club is saying, "this is what we charge, if you don't like it - screw!" It's also an acceptable attitude - meaning "this is what we do at XYZ Soccer club, this is how much it costs. If it's not a good fit, no problem, find another club."

Both are understandable positions. Clubs establish their curriculum, philosophy and price. Parents then choose which is the right choice for their kid. That's equitable, right?

Not exactly in RI.

The problem is when you have an authoritative entity - Soccer-RI - that limits the number of club choices that RI parents have. SRI's restrictive policies allow the RI premier clubs to have a monopoly, limiting the choices that parents have. In order to expand their pool of choices, RI parents have to drive their kids into Massachusetts, where there are no limits to premier club choices. But who wants to drive back and forth to Braintree 4 times a week?

In addition, new SRI rules limit the number of releases it will grant to non-SRI clubs for RI residents to 5.

SRI's policies limits parents choices, allowing SRI clubs to collude and fix prices. SRI policies also take away any incentive for existing clubs and towns to do a better job of providing a youth soccer experience for RI families.

I mean, what if your only choices were Coke and Pepsi? But you want to buy RC Cola. However, because of restrictive policy, you'd have to drive an hour to Mass to buy RC Cola because your local RI Stop & Shop is not allowed to offer RC Cola.

Granted, RISC is a non-SRI member, but that doesn't change my point one bit. SRI allows its existing premier clubs to say "don't like what we offer? Tough. We're the only game in town."

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My son's friend plays there and it's like $1700+ for the year.

Around $1100 to play and then separate fees for tournaments $300+ and uniform $300+ .

They went 1-6 in Maple this past spring.

For that much money we'll stay in Cumberland.

So it looks like the cost for all the Clubs is pretty similar. The part about loosing so many games wouldn't bother me. Good training is cumulative.

Sounds like price fixing:)

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So it looks like the cost for all the Clubs is pretty similar. The part about loosing so many games wouldn't bother me. Good training is cumulative.

Sounds like price fixing:)

The one club that is markedly lower in price is Lusitana, which charges around $850 per player, I'm told.

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You people all seem to live in the Blackston Valley area. Does anyone have anything to say about the Rams FC team. Are they a bteer option than going to a Mass team?

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You people all seem to live in the Blackston Valley area. Does anyone have anything to say about the Rams FC team. Are they a bteer option than going to a Mass team?

From what I know about Rams FC, it's a URI-based club. All boys teams. They don't have any younger teams - U12 and down.

I've heard that their U14 coach -WP - is very good. He won a U12 8 v 8 state cup 2 years ago with Warwick FF. I think he took most of that team with him to Rams.

IMO, Rams struggles to field a lot of teams because the town program down there - South County YSA - is so very, very good and well-run. SCYSA's boys teams are premier club quality. Thus, there's no reason to spend big $ for Rams.

And, nobody north of Providence wants to drive the 2 and a half hours it takes to get to matches and practices at URI. It's almost as bad as driving to Bristol.

Editorial note: some day, some day...somebody is going to get smart, put aside their egos and put together a Cumberland-Lincoln cooperative competitive program (Blackstone Valley United???) for boys and girls JUST LIKE South County's.