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[concerned]

Has anyone noticed the outrageous quantities of points that have been awarded to several tournament winners, finalist, semifinalist, and quaterfinalists in the last several months including multiple age groups, but more so at the U12 and U13 groups??
You have to be aware of how the points are awarded:
Average pre tournament point total of the top five teams entered - 20% of the winning teams pre-tourney total is awarded to the winner. In other words if the average pre-tourney point total is only 1200 points, then the winner should not be awarded 10,000!!!!

Just a few examples:
President's Cup (U12 and U13) (Arizona): The two winners were launched into the top ranking of the country. Each team awarded points received 10 x the amount they should have.
DTS Winter Invitational (New Jersey): NJSA Inter received 10 x the number of points it should have 400 to 4000...
Manhattan Kickoff
NEFC Pre-tournament; Now the NEFC U13 b-team is ranked number one in Mass.

It is almost as if they are off by a whole decimal point.

Although the rankings shouldn't matter much, they have been used to determine brackets placing for tournaments and for advertising by clubs.

It is such a phony system that I wonder if it should be abandoned altogether.

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This is a serious problem, something to be VERY concerned about. We should get right on this as soon as we've defeated the myth of global warming and vilified Obama a bit more.

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Has anyone noticed the outrageous quantities of points that have been awarded to several tournament winners, finalist, semifinalist, and quaterfinalists in the last several months including multiple age groups, but more so at the U12 and U13 groups??
You have to be aware of how the points are awarded:
Average pre tournament point total of the top five teams entered - 20% of the winning teams pre-tourney total is awarded to the winner. In other words if the average pre-tourney point total is only 1200 points, then the winner should not be awarded 10,000!!!!

Just a few examples:
President's Cup (U12 and U13) (Arizona): The two winners were launched into the top ranking of the country. Each team awarded points received 10 x the amount they should have.
DTS Winter Invitational (New Jersey): NJSA Inter received 10 x the number of points it should have 400 to 4000...
Manhattan Kickoff
NEFC Pre-tournament; Now the NEFC U13 b-team is ranked number one in Mass.

It is almost as if they are off by a whole decimal point.

Although the rankings shouldn't matter much, they have been used to determine brackets placing for tournaments and for advertising by clubs.

It is such a phony system that I wonder if it should be abandoned altogether.

Software glitch or conspiracy, you decide.

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This is a serious problem, something to be VERY concerned about. We should get right on this as soon as we've defeated the myth of global warming and vilified Obama a bit more.

Add Healthcare and Casino gambling to this list.

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Software glitch or conspiracy, you decide.

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[Unregistered]

Has anyone noticed the outrageous quantities of points that have been awarded to several tournament winners, finalist, semifinalist, and quaterfinalists in the last several months including multiple age groups, but more so at the U12 and U13 groups??
You have to be aware of how the points are awarded:
Average pre tournament point total of the top five teams entered - 20% of the winning teams pre-tourney total is awarded to the winner. In other words if the average pre-tourney point total is only 1200 points, then the winner should not be awarded 10,000!!!!

Just a few examples:
President's Cup (U12 and U13) (Arizona): The two winners were launched into the top ranking of the country. Each team awarded points received 10 x the amount they should have.
DTS Winter Invitational (New Jersey): NJSA Inter received 10 x the number of points it should have 400 to 4000...
Manhattan Kickoff
NEFC Pre-tournament; Now the NEFC U13 b-team is ranked number one in Mass.

It is almost as if they are off by a whole decimal point.

Although the rankings shouldn't matter much, they have been used to determine brackets placing for tournaments and for advertising by clubs.

It is such a phony system that I wonder if it should be abandoned altogether.

But GS is the one that most tournaments use to base their acceptances on. Many believe that MM is better (if he puts their team ahead of someone else), and maybe so. But MM is just a novelty until his system is used in place of GS.

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But GS is the one that most tournaments use to base their acceptances on. Many believe that MM is better (if he puts their team ahead of someone else), and maybe so. But MM is just a novelty until his system is used in place of GS.

MM is a great system, but it is indeed a novelty until it covers all ages U13 through U17.

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MM is a great system, but it is indeed a novelty until it covers all ages U13 through U17.

yup.....

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no, you are very wrong. their system is that you get the amount of points the tournament is worth, less 20% of what your team had pre-tournament. so if the tournament was worth 12,000 points, and pre-tournament your team had 100 points, and you won, you would get 12,000 less (20% of 100 points) 20 points, so 1180 points. these are not glitches, this is how their system works.

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disregard that last post please, i apologize, i did not realize that you had written 1200, not 12000. however the logistical stuff of what i wrote was right, but not the point totals. must be a glitch

[i've noticed too]

If you also consider that teams can have guest players for tournaments, what is this truly a ranking of?

Rumor has it that the NEFC U13 boys B team was spanked in its first two tournament games on 3/19 and 3/20. After the A team completed its subregion 1 games on 3/20, a few of those boys played with the B team on 3/21 to propel them to the championship. How can you be spanked 7-0 by the Pioneers on 3/19 only to shut them out 2-0 on 3/21? That's a huge turnaround.

But hey, that's the way the tournament-rankings game is played.

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orrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, they were short a lot of players during the first game, orrrrrrrrrrrrrr the Pioneers were short a lot of players in the second game, orrrrrrr??????

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missing the point

The point of the thread was that the calculations were far off compared to how the sites calculations suggest......this is not a thread for another NEFC bashing.....that occurs in many other sites...

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How can anyone respect a ranking system that awards a team who finishes 2nd in a tournament more points than the team that finishes 1st?????

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The point of the thread was that the calculations were far off compared to how the sites calculations suggest......this is not a thread for another NEFC bashing.....that occurs in many other sites...

What are the other sites?