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    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/exper...-participation

    "I see young athletes who throw up on the way to games because of the pressure they're experiencing," said Dr. Marshall Mintz, a clinical sports psychologist in Springfield, N.J.


    "Sometimes I do get a 10-year-old who wants to improve but a lot of times it's the parents coming in and wanting little Janey to excel more and I usually wind up pointing out that at this point it really is crucial to just emphasize having fun and enjoying sport," Mintz told Fox News. "Then I usually get fired because they don't like my message, which is de-emphasizing the perfectionism and the achievement and the results."

    #2
    I'd like to hear what they think about the 2007 Girls power rankings thread......

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      #3
      F you and your pansy kid who can't take parental motivation.

      ;)

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        #4
        If you have to take your kid to a sports psychologist you’ve already lost, you just don’t know it yet.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          If you have to take your kid to a sports psychologist you’ve already lost, you just don’t know it yet.
          The parents will be paying psychotherapy soon enough

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            If you have to take your kid to a sports psychologist you’ve already lost, you just don’t know it yet.

            It is great to recognize how parents are killing the fun for their own children. I remember, for my older kid how the parents used to line the sidelines......for U11 practice!! The coaches finally told them to go away.

            However, the affect on the child is from multiple directions. The parents, the coach, and the other players. It can be argued that the other players are a result of the parents and coaches. The coaches and club should really set the tone. The coach is also the one that gives the kid the opportunity to experience and express themselves. If, as has been discussed many times, the goal is only to win then the enjoyment disappears quickly.

            Suddenly, the child is not the top and seems to be 'burnt out' at an early age. This is because some combination of coach and parent has become the Ogre in the life of the player. In other words, the only people or persons that the child might turn to for help has become part of the problem instead of a solution. Now the child is lost without help.

            Comments about the kid being a snowflake, wimp etc etc have a small part of this. There are certainly extremes of personalities, but the vast majority of 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17 etc etc year olds just want to excel at something and be an active participant. Some have that personality that can tolerate the berating, but most do not respond to it.

            Constructive vs destructive coaching and parenting is what separates kids.

            As for psychotherapy, I can't say i know much about it, but or kids with insecurities (innate or acquired) a 'coach' or 'psych' person might be a benefit to allow the kid an avenue to express and work through issues that the over-bearing parent....or coach....doesn't allow. 'Confidence-coaching' might have a role. It doesn't even have to relate to soccer, but life in general.

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              #7
              It’s usually the first kid playing soccer syndrome.When you go through it a second time,most parents realize their screams do nothing but make them look and sound like an ahole.And then their are those who are just clueless .If your kid is truly talented you don’t have to say a word.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It’s usually the first kid playing soccer syndrome.When you go through it a second time,most parents realize their screams do nothing but make them look and sound like an ahole.And then their are those who are just clueless .If your kid is truly talented you don’t have to say a word.
                Don't be obtuse. There are very few unicorns who are born with the foot/eye coordination, athleticism, game intelligence, and drive who end up playing high-level soccer. For the rest, it's about # of touches, quality of coaching, a little bit of luck and hopefully an internal love of the game to tough out the grind. To say "if your kid is truly talented, you don't have to say a work" is BS. I guarantee your kid(s) weren't talented at "some arbitrary age" and you as a parent just sat there quietly and enjoyed a zen moment.

                Rather, just like every other average athlete whose family has more disposable income than common sense, you spent a small fortune on club soccer, clinics, camps, private lessons, strength and conditioning, speed and agility, etc... all so you can make the newbs here on TS think "my kid is a natural and I never said a word on the sidelines.

                For the record, my kid wasn't a natural, but she loved the game and worked her butt off for the last eight years to get to the point where she is being recruited to play D1 college soccer. Along the way, I learned to zip it on the sidelines, to support her when she needed it, to push her when she needed it, and to enjoy the ups and downs of the ride as it doesn't last forever.

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                  #9
                  I think poster meant ,screaming like an idiot on the sidelines will not make your kid better.Your kid must stink.

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                    #10
                    Your supposed to “watch” your child play come game-time .Not scream commands on the sidelines.Thats why they practice and if your kids not learning ,then your coaches are not doing their jobs.The only person that may have to instruct from the sidelines is the coach.Ive been watching my kids play for decades ,my daughters were recruited by D1 schools as freshman. And I only offered my suggestions when they asked me how they played and my thoughts on a game.Thats what you pay the coaches for.There is no such thing as unicorns every player has to work ,some are more gifted than others .

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Your supposed to “watch” your child play come game-time .Not scream commands on the sidelines.Thats why they practice and if your kids not learning ,then your coaches are not doing their jobs.The only person that may have to instruct from the sidelines is the coach.Ive been watching my kids play for decades ,my daughters were recruited by D1 schools as freshman. And I only offered my suggestions when they asked me how they played and my thoughts on a game.Thats what you pay the coaches for.There is no such thing as unicorns every player has to work ,some are more gifted than others .
                      Please use a space after sentences. And no space before a commas, space goes after the comma. Makes it much easier to read.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        Please use a space after sentences. And no space before a commas, space goes after the comma. Makes it much easier to read.
                        From the guy who refers to “a commas” and doesn’t know about run-on sentences.

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                          #13
                          And I thought just the parents from Nj were bananas

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Your supposed to “watch” your child play come game-time .Not scream commands on the sidelines.Thats why they practice and if your kids not learning ,then your coaches are not doing their jobs.The only person that may have to instruct from the sidelines is the coach.Ive been watching my kids play for decades ,my daughters were recruited by D1 schools as freshman. And I only offered my suggestions when they asked me how they played and my thoughts on a game.Thats what you pay the coaches for.There is no such thing as unicorns every player has to work ,some are more gifted than others .
                            Saw this on HBO this weekend. Absolutely amazing. They take everything the US does and then they do the opposite.

                            https://fasterskier.com/fsarticle/th...bryant-gumbel/

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Saw this on HBO this weekend. Absolutely amazing. They take everything the US does and then they do the opposite.

                              https://fasterskier.com/fsarticle/th...bryant-gumbel/
                              yeah, but this: "Norway is a wealthy nation with oil, gambling and other revenue streams that can be mobilized." but if we start subsidizing sports everyone will scream socialism when sometimes a little social benefit is really needed.

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